Ukraine Away 14 June 2022

Sham157 wrote: Im still at a loss though to see what exactly anyone from the FAI can do to interfere with Polish police matchday operations.

BrendanD88 wrote: kevincronin2000 wrote: Bonehead24 wrote: TheFieldsOfAthenry wrote: I know one of the lads, furthest thing from a trouble maker. Didn't even light the smokebomb was just caught with one. He said polish police were sound that night but next morning when it came to money they quickly changed their tune. Drove to nearest ATM. Stinks of you know what.  2k euro or Zloty? Either way there's definitely something off there.. Euro Surely no bank would allow that amount to be withdrawn? Doesn’t add up.

Saw a few great YBIG bucket hats on the trip to Lodz last week (had a "Save Tolka Park" label on them), does anyone know where they can be bought?

I have no idea what you’re trying to say but 5000zl was paid per person. Were told another 4000zl to be paid within a few months. 5000zl = under €1100, with the crazy ATM fees at the certain ATM one person was brought to it added up to just under €1200 for one of the 3 people fined, with an extra 4000zl to be paid at a future date. They were completely separated from the moment they were detained at the stadium and they did the same thing to each person. Would you like bank statements as proof or something? Not sure what doesn’t add up here. 

If the remainder of the fine is to be paid at a later date then if something illegal has happened here then surely this remains open to challenge? 

Edited by Borussia - 20 Jun 2022 at 3:20pm

Pipkin wrote: Sham157 wrote: Im still at a loss though to see what exactly anyone from the FAI can do to interfere with Polish police matchday operations.  I’m surprised you are Sham. This is the same Chief of Security that had distributed posters of a light hearted Delaney flag to stewards in Aarhus and the flag was confiscated. I understand there was a hunt on in Bordeaux for another light heated Delaney banner. And he stopped an Irish fan in Belgrade from entering the stadium and dictated to the stewards not to let him in whilst standing in front of riot police. It is very very clear, that he has a lot more power in foreign jurisdictions than he should have and what you are making out also. It suited him down to the ground for these lads to be hurled away in police vans to make examples of them. I wouldn’t be one but surprised if he was the man in the suit going by previous encounters.

We still haven’t heard from any fan directly fined or any direct testimony. Gerk has heard something about someone. No proof whatsoever posted, not that Im saying for one second that it didnt happen. I also cant say for sure it did.  Im around long enough to know not to jump and take everything as gospel just because i don’t like someone for previous actions.

Edited by Sham157 - 20 Jun 2022 at 4:06pm

Sham157 wrote: Pipkin wrote: Sham157 wrote: Im still at a loss though to see what exactly anyone from the FAI can do to interfere with Polish police matchday operations.  I’m surprised you are Sham. This is the same Chief of Security that had distributed posters of a light hearted Delaney flag to stewards in Aarhus and the flag was confiscated. I understand there was a hunt on in Bordeaux for another light heated Delaney banner. And he stopped an Irish fan in Belgrade from entering the stadium and dictated to the stewards not to let him in whilst standing in front of riot police. It is very very clear, that he has a lot more power in foreign jurisdictions than he should have and what you are making out also. It suited him down to the ground for these lads to be hurled away in police vans to make examples of them. I wouldn’t be one but surprised if he was the man in the suit going by previous encounters.  We still haven’t heard from any fan directly fined or any direct testimony. Gerk has heard something about someone. No proof whatsoever posted, not that Im saying for one second that it didnt happen. I also cant say for sure it did.  Im around long enough to know not to jump and take everything as gospel just because i don’t like someone for previous actions. Just as an edit to clarify, Im not doubting whatsoever that lads were banged up and fined these amounts. My doubts relate simply to the actions or lack thereof  the FAI official present.

Edited by The GerK - 20 Jun 2022 at 9:32pm

Bonehead24 wrote: Claret Murph wrote: The White Cafu wrote: BrendanD88 wrote: kevincronin2000 wrote: Bonehead24 wrote: TheFieldsOfAthenry wrote: I know one of the lads, furthest thing from a trouble maker. Didn't even light the smokebomb was just caught with one. He said polish police were sound that night but next morning when it came to money they quickly changed their tune. Drove to nearest ATM. Stinks of you know what.  2k euro or Zloty? Either way there's definitely something off there.. Euro Surely no bank would allow that amount to be withdrawn? Doesn’t add up. 5000zl paid and another 4000zl to be paid apparently, around €1200 taken out of ATM after being walked through streets in handcuffs to get to one, forced to take out with multiple bank cards as when it was said that withdraw limit was exceeded they said “ok you’re going to jail”. €750 daily withdrawal limit is common. Sorry  Cafu but this gets more strange by the minute . 3 lads fined 2000 adds up to six hundred so why was 1200 taken out ? Something is not right  You might need the calculator out Claret

Yep afternoon drinking can do that to me

They were told they were going to jail if they didn't pay, I assume that means brought to court. Agree with what was said above, that fella shouldn't be anywhere near the FAI let alone head of security. New FAI me hoop.