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Artie Ziff
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Previously you'd be doing well to pick half his team and even now it's a very tough call. But it's looking more like he has a group of 16 that will be playing and subbing on
If Kenny had every single player available who would be definitely starting for him? Only 6 for me 1Bazunu 2Egan 3Duffy 4Cullen 5Hendrick 6Robinson After those 6 it's hard to know 100% if Kenny would put Omobamidele in ahead of O'Shea? Coleman and Doherty might be picked on the right and the other left out? Would McLean or Egan be prefered on the left? McGrath should definitely start for me, but again that's a hard one to call as he might prefer Hourihane (I hope not). Idah was a starter but I'm not sure now |
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Egan has to be a nailed on starter for Kenny. Himself and Duffy rotate as captains when Coleman is out.
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Was thinking this yesterday. O'Shea hadn't done anything wrong in the games he's played for us, but that injury has come at a perfect time for Omobamidele. He's been great in the games he's come in for. I take it O'Shea will still be out for the November games but probably should be back for the March friendlies. Be unfortunate for Omo if he's not playing for Norwich and dropped for Ireland.
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I think, assuming O'Shea remains out and everybody else reports fit and well, then the starting XI for the Portugal game practically picks itself?
Baz Seamus Doherty Omabam Duffy Egan Cullen Hendrick Idah Robinson Mc Grath That starting XI looks pretty nailed on to me for the Portugal game at least, but might be subject to change vs weaker opposition, where you might gamble without the solidity of Mc Grath as one of the front 3 in the 3-4-2-1. The main issue between now and then is game time for Doherty, Omobamidele, Hendrick and Idah.
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Bazunu
Omobamidele Duffy Egan Coleman/Doherty. Doherty/?? Hendrick/?? Cullen ???? ??? Robinson We have a senior spine now of Robinson Cullen Duffy. They are the first 3 on the teamsheet cast iron. All young too by there own standards. Bazunu first choice but all it takes is one mistake and Kelleher could be in. For me Doherty is on the left Coleman on the right but it's not cast iron to an extent. Omobamidele and Egan are first choice until O'Shea comes back certainly. Attacking midfield McGrath just about for me from Knight. You can play either and you could play Knight where Hendrick is. Up front Idah and Robinson for me although Idah isn't cast iron. Team for Portugal is Bazunu Coleman Omobamidele Duffy Egan Doherty Hendrick Cullen Mcgrath Idah Robinson. That picks itself. Bar Duffy Cullen Robinson I don't think anyones place is infallible mind. I love Bazunu but even him as stated one mistake and Kelleher could be back in. If Portugal scores that penalty Kelleher is potentially in. It's a lot finer margins then people say. |
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Robinson will start in the middle of the 3 up top. Idah on the bench, McGrath oozes class and will play, I would try Connolly on the left and McGrath on the right, Doherty and Coleman on the wingback positions, Omobamidele will start in usual place, Collins and O Shea look very strong options at the back also, team for me against Portugal.
Bazunu Omobamidele Duffy Egan Coleman Cullen Hendrick Doherty McGrath Connolly Robinson |
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My 11 would be
Bazunu Omobamidele Duffy Egan Coleman Cullen Hendrick Doherty Knight Robinson Idah Would like to see Knight play deeper at some point but even I think Hendrick deserves his spot right now. Think he would do well as the all action role McGrath played but ultimately I think Knight is the better player with a higher ceiling so I'd have him start. I'd say Kenny will be loyal to McGrath though. I'm not convinced by Idah yet lack of football is hurting him but he's probably physically our most natural no9 due to his pace, size and technical ability. Though if he continues to not play I do expect Parrott to take that role sooner or later as be is looking much stronger and quicker. Egan and Duffy are nailed on but between O'Shea, Omobamidele and Collins we have some excellent young CB prospects. We desperately need some wingback prospects Doc and Coleman are great but they aren't getting any younger.
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Norwich have 4 games between now and the next ireland games, if idah doesn't feature in any of them can we really justify having him start based on an OK 20mins vs Portugal? He's been pretty poor all other games in my opinion and id go as far as saying ogbene is the better option.
I'm singling idah out a bit here as he just doesn't have a club career to speak of yet, whereas hourihane might not play between now and Portugal he's played 100s of club games. I'm pretty sure idah has started more senior ireland games than he has league games for Norwich. (Not to include Cup completions as they are not always seen as must win games) |
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John Nice
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There's a reason why Idah at 20 is on the fringes of ft football at a PL club and Ogbene at 24 is still in L1. I dont agree with your view at all. Doherty, Hendrick and Omobamidele are all in the same boat as Idah, all are lacking ft minutes. Imo we need an actual 9 vs Portugal (maybe not vs Luxembourg), our best bet is Idah imo. I could maybe understand an argument for James Collins starting there if he plays a lot and scores a few in the interim, but not Ogbene, purely from a tactical view point. Each to their own, but I'd stick with Idah and I think your "based on an OK 20 mins vs Portugal" is unfair in the extreme. As for Hourihane, I dont know why he's being brought up here, he shouldnt be near the first team in any game where we dont envisage dominating possession and certainly not one where we are likely to spend the majority of the game without the ball. No chance he starts vs Portugal unless we are decimated with injuries.
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I'm a big fan of Connolly's but its hard to see him coming in from the cold after not getting game time over the last two. Maybe if he is playing and scoring for Brighton it's a possibility and unlike others I think he did ok in the previous game vs Portugal, where he could easily have been the hero and clinched the points/winning peno if he wasn't blatantly shoved in the back by Cancelo for what was imo a nailed on pen. He combined well with Doherty down the lhs in the first half of that game also. I do think he'll stick with Idah up top though, he played him half fit vs Azerbaijan cos he wanted a physical presence up there and he clearly doesnt trust the likes of Collins, Keane and Parrott to do that just yet. Against Qatar we expected to dominate possession, so we didnt really need the out ball that Idah provides, we will vs Portugal. If we look to Chelsea who many think are now the blueprint for our 3-4-2-1 then Idah appears to be our preferred Lukaku.
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I'm a fan of Knight also, I just think Mc Grath has done really well. Knight would be my preferred choice to come in if any of Cullen/Hendrick/Mc Grath are out through injury and first off the bench if we need legs in midfield at any point. I'm still unsure at just 20 if he has the tactical discipline yet to play in a midfield two. Dont agree that Parrott is either quicker or stronger than Idah. Idah wasnt fully fit vs Azerbaijan.
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Knight was really unlucky with that injury I reckon he would of played a lot of minutes. He is a cracking little player so much energy and gets in the right places to be a goal threat. I'd agree he's not quite a fit for a midfield two yet, in a few years maybe
I meant Parrott looks quicker and stronger than he used to. I wasn't comparing him to Idah in that sense. |
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Ah ok, I agree with that, Troy definitely seems to have come on a bit since last season, which is great to see, he is progressing nicely but is still a bit behind Adam in terms of his development imo. I wouldnt rule out Troy ultimately surpassing Idah, but that's not a given by any means, it's very hard to judge what level they will both end up at, but I'd be surprised if they don't at least manage decent Championship careers, hopefully better.
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Agreed, if they are all fit and available then that is the team for Portugal IMO. I would say Idah, Hendrick and McGraths roles are most up for grabs but with no more friendlies until 2022 I think they are in possession of the jersey if available.
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Nailed on starters:
Bazunu Duffy Egan Cullen Hendrick Robinson Idah I think the other spots are up for grabs. I dont particularly think Idah should be a Nailed on starter but Kenny likes him and is his 1st choice in almost every game. After these 7 which is the spine of the team going forward I see it like this for the other positions: Coleman/Doherty O'Shea/Andrew Omo Stevens/McClean McGrath/Knight For me our best eleven in a 3-4-2-1 formation is: Bazunu O'Shea Duffy Egan Doherty Cullen Hendrick Stevens Robinson Knight Idah If Robinson can push on to be our main man, offering a real goal threat we can become a different proposition. I would love Idah to push on but he needs a loan move in January. His development will only be stunted sitting on the Norwich bench. Every footballer will tell you there is no substitute for games.
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Artie Ziff
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That's who I'd like to see start. Injuries aside I bet there will be 2-3 changes from it though
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