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Denis Irwin
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Is the correct answer.
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DublinScouse1916
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Scully surely over Shane long! Long hasn't scored for us since 2016. He a striker who doesn't score. That midfield is comical too.
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McG
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Ive a sneaky feeling DR has asked to be dropped down the order and called on if only absolutely necessary. We had those retirement rumours not so long ago. Not sure this is entirely SKs call.
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Banjaxed
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Hourihane is supposedly our deep lying "playmaker". Yet he goes out of his way not to be in possession. He's afraid of making mistakes. Rarely passes forward. Passes back and sideways in an endless and futile recycling of the ball. Also, his passing in general has.been shocking. I'm not saying other players should be starting, but why not include Kilkenny in the squad or Scully up front? Give yourself the option at least. At this stage Kenny should know the players that just aren't working, but his persistence in picking.them defies logic.
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Claret Murph
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kevin100
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Just on this Randolph was only raving in an interview not that long ago how talented the 3 lads were and it will be a case of when he passes the baton. This was before any of them had even played much senior football certainly not regularly I often think since fairplay to Randolph he was well aware of the talent on offer even back then!
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Badgersboys9
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So Kenny echoed a few posters on here re Arter in that its unfortunate that he hasnt played any football but he can play that holding mid role, has a great attitude and done well in the summer training camp. Still not for me though.
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zizu Kilbane
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Generally this point is correct. However there are some braver calls he could of made. Very string arguments to be made for Kilkenny, Scully and Scales. Can see us getting pumped in Portugal. Maybe the crowds back in Lansdown might help us nick a result in the other 2 games. This is the most pessimistic I've ever been going into an international window
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Bukowski
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I imagine the only reason not to select Kilkenny is that Kenny doesn't want to scare the crap of him by being overrun by Portugal in his first international game. Kenny wants options like Molumby and Arter because it we will be playing in our own half for 90% of the game. Hopefully the game will be 9 behind the ball at all times, at least keep the score to 2 or 3 for them. I cannot see who we could put in that midfield at this point that isn't selected today.
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Banjaxed
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Forget about ability or talent. Trying to even match up with the Portuguese when it comes to match fitness
As a Kenny fan, seriously worried about this window and what horrors could await..
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shakeyshamrock
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He referenced Scales in his press conference and said he's next in line at left full - McClean and Manning ahead of him at the minute.. He wasn't asked about either Kilkenny or Scully so the esteemed members of our 4th estate are obviously not as up to speed as posters on here!
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Banjaxed
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Kilkenny doesn't have to play. Put him on the bench.
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shakeyshamrock
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or let him play twice for the U21s in their qualifiers..
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Fozz
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Adds up and he's simply a backup for Cullen, who not long ago was a backup for McCarthy. I understand the inclusion and it goes to prove how few options we have. Every chance he doesn't see much time unless Cullen needs a rest or gets a knock. Looking to the future, I'd have Scully in ahead of Long. And Kilkenny in ahead of Hourihane. But one is operating at a relatively low level (I'm ignoring Parrott's inclusion here for convenience) and the other has only a handful of games under his belt, so the choices are understandable, even if I disagree with them. Other than that, we're loudly complaining about the midfield but it's like complaining about the weather - not a lot we can do about it if we have nobody stepping up to take the places off the established lads. Edited by Fozz - 26 Aug 2021 at 2:26pm |
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doherty
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we must be the most conservative nation in world football. i would rather see kilkenny given a chance than pick players who are sitting on the bench week in/out. at the moment hes good enough to start for bournemouth so why pick a guy who hasn't played since who knows when. its the same old same old with us.
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Het-field
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But you could say the same for Collins and Omobamidele who, given our options, may not see much game time. On a rotational basis, Doherty/Coleman would step in on the right, Manning/McClean on the left, with Egan, O'Shea and Duffy rotating in the centre. Like I said, Kenny could also have picked Clark. But this experience will stand to them. The major difference is that we are short stocked in midfield and the moment a single player, particularly in the middle goes down with injury, we dont have deep options, and will need to resort to calling up players. This is where there is a legitimate case for Kilkenny.
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Banjaxed
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Kenny probably could have done with having no Irish fans for another international window looking at this squad. Could be entering uncharted waters for Kenny by end of it .
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You Tell Me
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Not surprised to see both Kilkenny and Scully left out - neither were standouts for Kenny at Under 21 level. Seems to underline the theory that, if you weren't a Kenny favourite at under 21 level, you have a long road ahead to get picked under him at senior level, apparently regardless of what you may have done at club level in the last year or 18 months since he left the Under 21s. He seems to have already made his mind up on those lads.
Some other odd picks also - Omobamidele over Clark? Omobamidele is certainly a big prospect for us but surely you'd have Clark closer to the starting team against Portugal at the moment. Arter and Hourihane - what can you say really, he clearly has his favourites who cannot be dropped regardless of form. Curtis, based on what we've seen of him, is a waste of a pick also. I'm surprised he hasn't included a League of Ireland player, when you see the Twitter comments under the squad announcement it's all LoI fans giving out about that. Given that they're the only section of the support base that he still has on his side, it would have seemed pragmatic to call up Scales or someone to keep them on board. You can just see that last bit of support for him dripping away from here. Realistically the Portugal game is down to him now, if he can't set them up sensibly and pragmatically they'll be destroyed out there and his position will become even less tenable than it already is.
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