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Jayson Molumby and Aaron Connolly have been tipped to leave Brighton on loan for the coming season. Brighton U18 coach Mark Beard said that he expected the pair to seek first team football elsewhere if none is available at Brighton
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Great to see Gavin Bazunu get a loan move to Portsmouth. Should be of huge benefit to him. If he is playing regular 1st team football in August / early Sept, it might be enough to keep him in the Irish team ahead of Randolph and Kellher.
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Interesting. Lee O Connor has to make the breakthrough at Parkhead. He seems to have been around forever.
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100%. We cant have a repeat of last season which started brightly only for a number of key players to fall out of first teams, and match day squads. The moves for Duffy, Doherty, Hendrick and Arter not working out was exceptionally disappointing, as those were moves that should have progressed these players. The loan deals for Parrott, Long and Molumby were, for the most part, poor. Travers' loan deal getting cut was unhelpful. Enda Stevens' being at one of the poorest PL teams since 1992 was regrettable. Kelleher's injury probably has stunted his growth a little. Then there are lads like McCarthy and Brady who now need other clubs to take them on. I expect there will be suitors, but they would be better off in the Championship or SPL playing weekly, than bench warming in the PL. Hourihane probably needs a move too, as I suspect Villa will have moved on from him. And if he is one of Kenny's preferred players that becomes all the more pressing. Ditto Horgan, who seems to have the bit between his teeth in the Green. I'd rather him do it from the Championship than League 1. Collins has got a move to Cardiff, but ostensibly he will either be working in co-ordination or competition with Moore. If in competition, that means Collins is likely to start the season off the bench. Next season could also be defining for Coleman. With luck, whoever takes over at Everton will see him as integral. Of course, it could go another way if a new manager comes in with evolution on his mind, at which point Coleman might be seen as more of a leader off the pitch, which won't help our cause. Then there are the clutch of young players like Omobamidele, Collins, O'Shea who had decent and promising seasons last term (even with Collins having an injury). They need to build on that, and hopefully they will. Obviously with Norwich promoted, and Burnley circling, the first two may well be PL bound which will be welcome. I also think depending on how the season starts, in addition to the 60 the GS has discussed, the likes of Scott Hogan, Glenn Rea, Aiden McGeady ought to be looked at. Looking at the Euros, age and lack of favour at club level isn't hurting players, so that shouldn't be too much of a bar either.
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The Huntacha
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Main target for every player for this season should just be regular first team football, regardless of the level. I'll be the first to criticize Hourihane for his performances but at least he went out and got first team football at a lower level instead of sitting on the bench.
It was very evident from our international windows that the players weren't fit enough. It's not much good saying you're a PL footballer when you barely feature. We'll see much better performances if all our players are getting regular game time, even at Championship level.
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Excellent post and thread. I agree with a lot of what people are saying about different players. For me the other big think is I hope we get better luck with injuries next season. Last season was a really unlucky one (injury wise) for a lot of our players.
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Really interesting post. Agree with the majority of it. I would like to see the midfielders find their level and get games under their belt in particular. Molumby has potential but is a bit headless. Needs more discipline which regular football would give him. Knight looks like he could be a stalwart and goal threat in a few years. Cullen I like and he seems to be someone who has good ability on the ball. Wing back wise Doherty needs to do more but McClean's recent performance could keep Steven's out of the team. Idah needs a loan move. Connolly needs to get his head straight and he will be a top player. Keepers look good- prefer Kelleher over Banzu but Randolph should retain his spot for now. O'Shea and Egan will hopefully form the solid basis of a back 3 with one other. Great first post though fair play.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Pretty much it. He played for Millwall in that position and the position but also the club suited him. I generally got disagreed with on here for saying he’d have been better served doing the extra year at Millwall when most were saying he was ready for Brighton. If he did go back to Millwall it might be a different conversation now. He would play regularly for plenty Championship clubs next season id have no doubt I wouldn’t knock him too much for Preston bit of a basket case in the 2nd half of last season were Preston they got a good young winger from Everton on loan with Molumby who similarly didn’t get much of a look in. Who’s to say he won’t get a run at Brighton especially if they sell Bissouma.
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Molumby doesn't contribute to assists or goals. Every time I've watched him I found he lacks composure in the final third. He also tends to lack positional sense and leave gaps in the midfield. Where he looks very good is in the tackle, his energy and carrying the ball forward from deep. His passing forward from the back seems to be good too. He needs to lock down his position now. The fact that he couldn't lock down a position at an average Preston midfield is a worry. As an attacking midfielder, box to box midfielder or holding midfielder.
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It might have been about 18 months after the Euros, cant remember exactly when but we had started our decline just before the end of the WC2108 qualifying campaign. But I'll never forget seeing either a post or an Instagram story of the players doing rondos at the start of a session. If it was a team from the LSL, you would have been slating them for how bad it was. Honestly some of the worst attempts at possession I've seem from a team, regardless of them being professionals or not.
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I think Molumby has potential as both a box to box and a holding midfielder. What we know doesn't work is playing him in a more advanced midfield position tucked in behind the forwards like Preston tried. It didn't suit him at all, his game is about carrying the ball forward from deeper positions.
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I would have thought he is the opposite of what you just said.
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I think the players in desperate need of loan moves would be
Conor Coventry- still hasn't played men's football and when you consider that Knight is 2 years younger than him and has nearly 100 appearances he really needs to go on loan now. Hes already falling behind. Gavin Killkenny - similar to Coventry and finding himself on the bench but unlikely to get on the pitch. Needs a loan move to a championship club. Troy Parrott - really needs to continue the progress he's making with a loan, championship would be ideal but league 1 also good. Would be very easy to lose progress he's made by sitting in the spurs u23. Jimmy Dunne - not fancied at Burnley but has impressed in games. A permanent move to a championship club where he could get games would be great for his development, possibly one of those players that peaks late on. Adam idah - he's not going to get goals in the EPL as he's only played a handful of games in men's football. Needs a loan to the championship. Jayson Molumby - had a decent first season with millwall followed by a bitterly disappointing season with Preston. Needs to be playing football week in week out now. Also needs to settle in the holding midfield role. Hes most definitely not a box to box player. I feel he could be a very good holding midfielder though. Luca Connell - needs a loan move to a better team the queen's park. Needs to stay injury free and go on loan to a league 1 level club to get back on track but I think he could be a really class player for us. |
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To be fair I never considered Connell to be a slow player. He plays that holding midfield role and am not convinced he's as slow as say hourihane or Glenn Whelan who have made good careers for themselves. I dont think declan Rice is particularly fast either. I think he looks a very good player that has been unlucky with injuries more than anything else.
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I think people are probably being overly optimistic when it comes to Connell. He looks too slow to me to make it at a high level. It's a shame because he has a lovely left foot and seems an intelligent footballer, but he really is slow and that's not something that's fixable. It was telling that he didn't even get a run as a sub when Celtic were missing about 15 players after the Lennon piss up in Dubai.
Biggest hopes for me for next season would be an EPL move for Collins, maybe Knight also, Bazunu getting another good loan, Kelleher getting a run of games at some stage and the four younger lads up front getting more game time, probably on loan in most cases.
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I remember going to the Ireland open training session in LR and thinking it's great to be able to see how these elite players train under (O'Neill and Keane) One group were taking shots on the keeper and then the other group were doing the circle and a player in the middle trying to intercept the ball. You'd barely see this at the academy level.
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March 2023 is the first of these games. That’s the next target. We will have a solid defence by then I think and the two young keepers I have no fear of them. Kelleher particularly but Bazunu should continue to develop too. What is key is the young attackers or even the likes of a Szmodics who has declared for us rise on up the ranks and continue to develop. I’d love to see Connolly Obafemi Parrott and Idah get loan moves tbh. The first two to the Championship Parrott to League 1 and Idah to either one. Regular gametime is vital and I don’t see Connolly and Parrott in particular getting it at their parent clubs. Drop down a level play regularly find their feet get momentum hopefully start scoring some goals too. People mention Robbie Keane but I’d point Long Walters who spent their early 20s in the Championship or lower even Damien Duff spent two seasons playing Championship football in his young 20s before coming back up with Blackburn. It’s even more competitive for young attackers today in England then it was then I’d argue comfortably so. Also young midfielders such as Johansson Smallbone Connell Coventry Molumby Hodge Kilkenny etc find their way and level. Jack Taylor another one at Peterborough will be intriguing to see how he handles the step up. He’s very talented and I’d be hopeful he will impress next season. It will be fascinating to see where these lads will be by March 2023.
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