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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

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I agree they were better keepers but lloris hasn't had a great season nor has patricio.  Pickford has been very good the second half of the season and has never made a mistake for England 

Where do you think England will finish?

Quarters maybe semis 

England play to runner up in group F which is France\Portgual or Germany. Couldn't be any tougher.


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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

England too reliant on Harry Kane and Croatia too reliant on Luka Modric. Neither team will win the competition, but either could make the last 8. 

Every top team relies massively on a goal scorer. Where would Portugal be without ronaldo.  Where would Belgium be without lukaku.  He maybe our goalscorer but grealish foden and Mount are the key players.  Theyre the ones that make things happen.  We have plenty of fire power all over. Sterling scored 8 goals in qualifying.  We are far more than a one man team
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I’ve yet to see this England team dominate a decent side like Italy did last night v Turkey. It may happen tomorrow but doubt it. As others said not winning tomorrow will result in massive pressure v Scotland on Friday.


are you saying Turkey are a decent side?

the first Nations League where they got to the semi finals they were good but Southgate seems to have reigned that in a little

We were battering teams when we played 433. Southgate has gone all defensive because of a couple of mistakes.  If we don't do well in this tournament its down to him
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Got of feeling Scotland might do better than is generally expected. They play to their strengths, have some good technical players and a good manager . Englands star players are generally the lightweights in their club teams. If a team so concerned about the loss of Maguire, you have to wonder..They'll do well to get to the final 8. 
Lightweight? Sancho is dortmund's second best player.  Kane is spurs best player.  Grealish is villa's star man. Foden is crucial to city. Dcl is Evertons top scorer. Mount is key to Chelsea..should I go on
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I agree they were better keepers but lloris hasn't had a great season nor has patricio.  Pickford has been very good the second half of the season and has never made a mistake for England 

Where do you think England will finish?

Quarters maybe semis 
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As a Croatia fan for the day I’m delighted to see Sancho, Bellingham, Rashford and Luke Shaw on the bench today.
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England should be a good proposition. They have evolved quite a bit since 2018, when I think they struck it lucky and almost lumbered to the semis, and I think they have a lot of good young talent that if Southgate has the courage to play them they could make a decent fist of the tournament.
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For those English born or living in England, what's the plan for.today? Will you go watch the match in the pub?

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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Got of feeling Scotland might do better than is generally expected. They play to their strengths, have some good technical players and a good manager . Englands star players are generally the lightweights in their club teams. If a team so concerned about the loss of Maguire, you have to wonder..They'll do well to get to the final 8. 

Harry, Foden, Rice, Grealish etc would all be considered heavyweights at their clubs.

Look we get it, they must not win but they have excellent forwards. Thankfully they are weak in defence! 
I expect them to batter one of the teams in the group and it could be Scotland. 

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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

I’ve yet to see this England team dominate a decent side like Italy did last night v Turkey. It may happen tomorrow but doubt it. As others said not winning tomorrow will result in massive pressure v Scotland on Friday.


are you saying Turkey are a decent side?

the first Nations League where they got to the semi finals they were good but Southgate seems to have reigned that in a little
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Got of feeling Scotland might do better than is generally expected. They play to their strengths, have some good technical players and a good manager . Englands star players are generally the lightweights in their club teams. If a team so concerned about the loss of Maguire, you have to wonder..They'll do well to get to the final 8. 
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I’ve yet to see this England team dominate a decent side like Italy did last night v Turkey. It may happen tomorrow but doubt it. As others said not winning tomorrow will result in massive pressure v Scotland on Friday.
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England too reliant on Harry Kane and Croatia too reliant on Luka Modric. Neither team will win the competition, but either could make the last 8. 
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

I agree they were better keepers but lloris hasn't had a great season nor has patricio.  Pickford has been very good the second half of the season and has never made a mistake for England 

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England are massively overrated. They’ll be knocked out in last 16.
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I agree they were better keepers but lloris hasn't had a great season nor has patricio.  Pickford has been very good the second half of the season and has never made a mistake for England 
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Originally posted by Englishborn Englishborn wrote:

you underestimate our backline. We have 5 European finalist players at the back. James walker shaw stones chilwell in the champions league and europa league maguire would have been captain in the Europa League final.  White is a very composed defender. Alot better than mings, who is a bombscare but he did captain villa. Coady is wolves captain.  Pickford had a better season than rui patricio.  Lloris isn't the same keeper he was 5 years ago. Portugal for example are relying on 2 38 year old defenders alongside dias. No pace. Belgiums defence is past its best.  Germany are desperate for good defenders so much they recalled hummels after 3 years away. Italy have 2 defenders in their mid 30s. England's defence isn't as bad as people make out 

I think England's defence is very decent, and it has a good protector in Rice in front of it. 

Patricio or Lloris are better keepers than Pickford.
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you underestimate our backline. We have 5 European finalist players at the back. James walker shaw stones chilwell in the champions league and europa league maguire would have been captain in the Europa League final.  White is a very composed defender. Alot better than mings, who is a bombscare but he did captain villa. Coady is wolves captain.  Pickford had a better season than rui patricio.  Lloris isn't the same keeper he was 5 years ago. Portugal for example are relying on 2 38 year old defenders alongside dias. No pace. Belgiums defence is past its best.  Germany are desperate for good defenders so much they recalled hummels after 3 years away. Italy have 2 defenders in their mid 30s. England's defence isn't as bad as people make out 

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