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MC Hammered
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 6872 |
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Irish people and Israelis are not generally culturally aligned. They are very forthright and speak their minds. We tend to be more concerned about how our message is received and soften our speech "Ah I'm grand thanks. Yes everything is fine thanks." We see this as being polite but other nationalities can be confused by us or even consider us two faced. I met a heap of Israelis traveling and some of them were great folk. However, there was a higher than normal percentage of absolute w@nkers. I remember one of the sound ones explaining to me that he was going to complain in a restaurant in order to get us a discount. He thought I'd be delighted to save a few bob and was shocked when I had a pop at him. They seem happy enough with minor social conflict as part of their daily lives, its like its viewed as a debate more than a row. I'm not wired to deal with that personally. Life is too short.
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El Puto Amo
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Claret Murph
Paul McGrath Hmmm, Goodness, I must say Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 15750 |
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As i keep saying Tiger is well read up on this issue .
I lived in Israel for 10 months saw things from both side now i know you don't get this but i would say most Jews want peace want to raise their children and so on . The devide between rich and poor with Arabs and Jews is massive , now i have sat down and heard stories from Arabs also they have very good points and i do feel for them . This will not end this year or the next century and everyone knows it .
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Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days .
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TigerRoll
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 31 Mar 2021 Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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The narrative to go? Hamas killed a 6 year old this week with anti tank missile. They don’t need to say anything except the facts. Firing missiles into a city is careless, with the sole aim of killing and destruction. They’ve been at war multiple occasions now, recently being 2006. First being as I said earlier 1948. That’s longer than the Provisional IRA in Northern Ireland. In 1948 Israel was created to be a Arab/Jewish state at the UN Council, ironically it was the Arabs that invaded non settled Jewish areas to prevent that. Jews flocked to Israel in the 1920s-40s to flee the oppression often of Hitler, would you prefer they all stayed and died! The local Arabs couldn’t accept the Jews calls it was their ancestral home. Hamas also refuse to move on agreeing what a peace treaty could look like, as for them any Jews in the area is one jew too many. The day will come when Israel has had enough of watching rockets fly over Tel Aviv and they invade the Gaza Strip. As they’ve done in Lebanon previously. Israel has a democratically elected government, it is recognised by the UN, the capital being Jerusalem is recognised by the USA. Are all their actions perfect, absolutely not. But a few bad apples or actions isn’t the entire nation or army. Similar to the British Army, those individuals who opened fire in Ballymurphy/Derry don’t stand for the entire British army most of which would of been disgusted and outraged at those shootings and the time it’s taken for a verdict of innocent.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34877 |
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Generalization or not. I can only judge the people I have met socially and have worked with.
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Shedite
Jack Charlton Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9820 |
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Yeah I wouldn't be mad on them based on any interactions I've had with them. I'm fairly adventurous with my travel destinations but it's one country I've never had any interest in going to either,
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Dalymount79
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1544 |
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I’m met some very decent Israelis in my time and was happy to spend time with them. Those in bigger groups tend to be younger and loader. Not unlike paddies in say Aus. Post army they seem to be on edge which can be understandable. Arrogant - not much different to your average wealthy Arab nation citizen, Aussie or Dutch. Generalisations eh. |
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Saint Tom
Jack Charlton Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9983 |
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No one cared about what happened in the middle East a thousand years ago.... Something about a crusade?????
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8366 |
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You can't tar everyone with the same brush in fairness. Their government is full of ****s and there is a large number of religious extremists, but there are also many ordinary Israelis who are appalled at what's being done in their name as well.
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Beavis
500 Club la la la Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Location: Waterford Status: Offline Points: 541 |
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Whether you want to state explicitly or not, you're a supporter of Israel. The "fault on both sides" argument accounts to tacit support for Israel. This is how they want the narrative to go. While people throw there hands up and say "oh what can you do, they're both in it", the Israelis continue to rob - flat out, internationally-recognised, daily theft to the point where Palestine is an nonviable, unlivable shell. This suits nicely - they don't want a 1 state solution or proper 2 state - and perpetual war is the way to ensure this continues. Support for Israel is not just morally abhorrent, it's inherently racist - i.e. you believe one group of people has the right to prosper over another, simply because of their birth religion/race. Palestinians have long surrendered, they sued for peace for years; more moderate parties were in place for the majority of the conflict. It got them nowhere. They are weak and desperate, and at least the rhetoric of Hamas gives them some pathetic sense of empowerment. |
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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Have to agree. The ones I’ve met have all been miserable.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34877 |
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I've not met a decent Israelis myself work with a few of them and they are ****s.
Socialized with a few of them in Oz too - arrogant miserable ****s they were. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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TigerRoll
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 31 Mar 2021 Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Incase anyone is very bored, you can tune in live to watch the nightly drone and rocket display in Tel Aviv. Ive never had an issue with Israelis, I’ve worked with them. It’s like saying every Brit is a **** it’s simply not true.
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Claret Murph
Paul McGrath Hmmm, Goodness, I must say Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 15750 |
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Still it's impossible to deal with Hamas as they want all jews dead, ALL .............
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Lansdowne Road debut aged 52 and 201 days .
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Dalymount79
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1544 |
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Coincidental this didn’t happen two weeks ago when Netanyahu was trying to form a government but when the main opposition leader was invited all hell breaks loose. He’s had blood on his hands a long time now.
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8366 |
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20424935.html
Let's not forget that these ****s have used fake Irish passports to commit murder
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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jamo1
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1953 |
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Did a tour of SE Asia a few years ago before moving onto OZ, they are not well liked especially in Thailand even Thai people will tell you this most are just out of the army or on leave and they think they own the place, ignorant, self entitled etc etc. Did Fraser Island in OZ and when we were collecting the jeep to go out the safety guy a bit of a stoner pretty harmless asked the group are there any Israelis and nobody put up their hand he said thank f*ck the only trouble they ever get is from Israelis.
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Del Boy: You do know what a pyscopath is dont you Grandad
Grandad: Of course i know what a Pyscopath is, its a fella who dresses up in womens clothes. |
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ShamtheRam
Paul McGrath Joined: 05 Apr 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 18150 |
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An awful bunch. Have dealings with a few Israelis through work and they are the most self entitled, devious, ego maniacs i've ever encountered.
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wexfordman1
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Location: wexford Status: Offline Points: 320 |
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Thing is about Hamas if they were non violent I feel as though still no one would stand up for them they fight because they feel as though its there only option for their people.
I have always thought of Hamas as Sinn Fein after 1916 until the end of the war of Independence they have a military wing alas the IRA but there military wing is not picking its battles well. Could be wrong as wrong could be but what can the Palestinians do instead the Israeli are bastards backed with this unbelievable military
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