Murph I don’t give a sh*t where he spends his money that’s his business.   It’s the hypocrisy of lads like him giving out about the ESL when it’s on the back of supporters from around the world neglecting the clubs in their country and supporting these super powers run by billionaires that the ESL has come about.  

If fans supported the club closest to them this would not come about.  It comes about because billionaires know they can make money from consumers around the world who abandon the clubs closest to them.  There is a huge hypocrisy in everything Gaffer says and he has no understanding of nuance.  PM called him out on this also. 

You are from Burnley and you live in Galway so you support Burnley and Galway Utd.  I think that makes sense and it is a sustainable model for fans to follow. 

100 per cent it is.

However, by financially supporting these clubs, you are lining the owners pockets who are in it to make money.

So no point in giving them your money on the one hand, then giving out about the price of your season ticket, matches been switched to silly times and days for tv, etc.

No point giving your money to the club, whose sole purpose for the owners is to make money for themselves - and be surprised that they look at other ways to make more money. By financially supporting these clubs, you’re encouraging it.

Any premier league club would’ve jumped at chance to join the super league if invited, all the same.

I have little sympathy for Man Utd supporters especially. Protests gained great momentum in 2004/2005. Singing not one penny, etc. But then all renewed STs in August. A few thousand didn’t , stuck to their word about not giving the glazers their money, and are having a great time getting their united kicks at fc, and some also at man Utd away matches!

United supporters calling for the glazers to go now? . 16 years too late, but they’ll still give the glazers their money come August and nothing will change.

Baldrick wrote: They will regroup and be ready for the next battle but they are winning the way.

No one seriously believes that these guys will repent or sell-up and walk away etc.

But they/their intentions are no longer the only power.

Two things have emerged from this: 1. Their greed and selfishness has been exposed to all; and 2. Their headlong rush towards a SL of their own design need not be unstoppable.

That is, the rest of football has seen that if they work together, they can wield considerable power too.

Baldrick wrote: Until the ownership model in England changes things will only get worse.

There is no doubt that there are many structural weaknesses in the English model which need reform.

But those people who are blithely looking eg to the Bundesliga's widely praised 51% ownership model, might consider this.

Bayern are about to clinch their 9th consecutive title, while the PL has had 5 different winners in the last 10 seasons, with only one club retaining the title, and then only once.

Baldrick wrote: What got this stopped was the counter bid from UEFA simple as that.

"Simple" or simplistic?

There were a whole number of factors which caused the plan to fail, of which UEFA's counterplan was only one element.

I mean, it's not as if all the opponents of the SL were also proponents of the UEFA plan, were they?

What this has shown is that it's the local supporters who hold the most power, but they have to act collectively. They contribute the most economically to a club, and without them, the club effectively ceases to function. If local fans object to the owners and withdraw support from the club, the owners are going to have a bloody hard time hanging onto the club. Those Chelsea supporters were all locals. 

Then things start to change Ashley takes over you don't like the look of him and a few years down the line you were right as he is nothing but a cheap crook .

What do you do not go anymore because you will be giving your money to him sort of or now take up as a Gateshead fan ? 

It's the club that has you hooked not those who run it and one thing is for sure you will out live those in power and you will still be a Newcastle fan .