Gavin Bazunu

We're in no different a position now than what any sensible person would have realised we were in a year or two ago - we have two young keepers with very little between them.

19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24.

The O'Shea wrote: TheNumber6 wrote: 19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24. If you'd never watched Lionel Messi before, and you only got to watch the 7 games he played at the world cup, would you need more evidence to conclude that he was an outstanding footballer? Kelleher has played 19 games for Liverpool's first team, 9 games for Ireland seniors, and 10 games for the Under-21's - and he has impressed in most of them. If you still can't tell whether he's a good goalkeeper or not, it's only because you are a bad judge of player.

t_rAndy wrote: I've called it from the start that Bazunu has mistakes in him that need to be ironed out  He has dropped a few playing for us in all but got away with it.  I've also said he is still young and plenty of top class keepers were making mistakes when the first broke through.  I'd fear for him now that he gets dropped for Southampton.  For ireland, I would nearly say he hadn't let us down badly yet so he is still number one but honestly speaking I would trust Kelleher more.

He made plenty of mistakes for Rochdale and some of it was blamed on Brian Barry-Murphy having them playing expansive football. Now it's Southampton's defense being blamed. Never mind the fact it's a goalkeeper's remit to organise his defense. You see this with Parrott (teammates not being up to scratch), Connolly, Idah (playing too deep), Knight (shuffled around) and our other young players when they're underperforming. One of the rare times Kelleher had something to do in goal for us he was unconvincing for the UKR goal in Dublin and didn't look commanding enough at other points. 

Edited by Hotlips_Hoolahan - 27 Dec 2022 at 1:36pm

doherty wrote: Bazunu is a great shot stopper. He needs to cut out these mistakes at times but that's something he and his coaches can and will work on. He may get dropped for a while but even if he does i think he will get back in soon enough. Hes made plenty of good saves this season so far. He is playing in a poor side lets not forget. Granted the 1st goal yesterday he made a mess of.

I think this one's really up for debate, at least on current form. He seems to have a common theme of not moving his feet before diving and letting savable shots past him. I've said before that I actually think he's partial to the odd camera save and got a bit of stick, but I do think he makes straight forward saves look better than they are.

Bazunu has so much natural talent (there's a reason why someone so young in goal in the PL is a rarity) that he should be fine in time. But I do agree that his propensity for a mistake has been overlooked by some on here. If you take his home performance against Serbia where he was (rightly) lauded for a couple of worldies, in the same game he lost the flight of a free that landed on the crossbar from 45 metres and he ran out to intercept a though ball, missed it, and was only saved by McClean on the cover. Needs to cut this propensity way down and hopefully he will in time.

rebelbrowser wrote: Bazunu has so much natural talent (there's a reason why someone so young in goal in the PL is a rarity) that he should be fine in time. But I do agree that his propensity for a mistake has been overlooked by some on here. If you take his home performance against Serbia where he was (rightly) lauded for a couple of worldies, in the same game he lost the flight of a free that landed on the crossbar from 45 metres and he ran out to intercept a though ball, missed it, and was only saved by McClean on the cover. Needs to cut this propensity way down and hopefully he will in time.

The O'Shea wrote: E2016 wrote: The O'Shea wrote: TheNumber6 wrote: 19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24. If you'd never watched Lionel Messi before, and you only got to watch the 7 games he played at the world cup, would you need more evidence to conclude that he was an outstanding footballer? Kelleher has played 19 games for Liverpool's first team, 9 games for Ireland seniors, and 10 games for the Under-21's - and he has impressed in most of them. If you still can't tell whether he's a good goalkeeper or not, it's only because you are a bad judge of player. Trying to equate Messi and Kelleher now. Bloody brilliant.  But funnily enough, if you remove Messi from your atrocious argument, there have been numerous examples of players getting moves based on a handful of games at international tournaments and flopping afterword. Clearly demonstrating that a greater body of work should be taken into account before making judgements. The only bad judge of player is the person over hyping a sub keeper based off essentially f*ck all games when playing for a team that has been winning with ease for years.  Congratulations on failing to understand what metaphorical reasoning is

Edited by E2016 - 27 Dec 2022 at 9:34pm

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