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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I've called it from the start that Bazunu has mistakes in him that need to be ironed out 
He has dropped a few playing for us in all but got away with it. 
I've also said he is still young and plenty of top class keepers were making mistakes when the first broke through. 

I'd fear for him now that he gets dropped for Southampton. 

For ireland, I would nearly say he hadn't let us down badly yet so he is still number one but honestly speaking I would trust Kelleher more.
He made plenty of mistakes for Rochdale and some of it was blamed on Brian Barry-Murphy having them playing expansive football. Now it's Southampton's defense being blamed. Never mind the fact it's a goalkeeper's remit to organise his defense. You see this with Parrott (teammates not being up to scratch), Connolly, Idah (playing too deep), Knight (shuffled around) and our other young players when they're underperforming. One of the rare times Kelleher had something to do in goal for us he was unconvincing for the UKR goal in Dublin and didn't look commanding enough at other points. 

Alex McCarthy was injured, as Nathan Jones pointedly said after the Brighton game, so I suspect Bazunu will be taken out of the firing line when he's back. 

Massively concerning that all three goalkeepers could be on the bench come March. If that's the case, I suspect Kelleher will be given the nod. It would be great if he discovered some ambition over the next month.


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I've called it from the start that Bazunu has mistakes in him that need to be ironed out 
He has dropped a few playing for us in all but got away with it. 
I've also said he is still young and plenty of top class keepers were making mistakes when the first broke through. 

I'd fear for him now that he gets dropped for Southampton. 

For ireland, I would nearly say he hadn't let us down badly yet so he is still number one but honestly speaking I would trust Kelleher more.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by TheNumber6 TheNumber6 wrote:

19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24.

If you'd never watched Lionel Messi before, and you only got to watch the 7 games he played at the world cup, would you need more evidence to conclude that he was an outstanding footballer?

Kelleher has played 19 games for Liverpool's first team, 9 games for Ireland seniors, and 10 games for the Under-21's - and he has impressed in most of them. If you still can't tell whether he's a good goalkeeper or not, it's only because you are a bad judge of player.

Ya but put him in that Southampton side and see how he gets on. Bitnof a difference playing behind a Liverpool defence on a handful of occasions.
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Originally posted by TheNumber6 TheNumber6 wrote:

19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24.

If you'd never watched Lionel Messi before, and you only got to watch the 7 games he played at the world cup, would you need more evidence to conclude that he was an outstanding footballer?

Kelleher has played 19 games for Liverpool's first team, 9 games for Ireland seniors, and 10 games for the Under-21's - and he has impressed in most of them. If you still can't tell whether he's a good goalkeeper or not, it's only because you are a bad judge of player.
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19 senior games isn’t a body of work consistent with providing a definitive measure of one’s quality at the age of 24.
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Gav going through a difficult time at the moment, believe he is mentally strong enough to come through it and have a good career. Whether he is EPL quality is another matter. Despite Bazunu and Travers connections to Rovers I have for a while now think CK is the best of the 3 and should be our No. 1.
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We're in no different a position now than what any sensible person would have realised we were in a year or two ago - we have two young keepers with very little between them.

The constant belittling of Kelleher for committing the crime of learning his trade behind the best goalkeeper in the world at one of the best clubs in the world was always just stupid, and he proved it thus by catching the eye in pretty much every game he was given the opportunity.

Bazunu took a different route and he has been both over-praised and over-criticised in equal measure. When he was going well in L1 some of the praise was just going miles overboard, and now that he's having a tougher spell in the EPL (in a terrible team) the scrutiny over every little thing he does is verging on lunacy.

They're both massively talented and already very good, you could flip a coin between who should be first choice. Neither is obviously clear of the other.
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Even at Rochdale, I thought it was evident he had kinks he needed to work out before he was ready to play at PL level. The mistakes were there at Rochdale, not with anything approaching the regularity of what's happening now, but they were there.

On that note, Kelleher has looked unconvincing at times (Ukraine (h)) and, at others, has been completely untested (Malta). 

At least Bazunu is putting himself out there. He was always going to have a moment of adversity to overcome. Kelleher will be 35 by the time he has his moment of doubt.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

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But he’s still better than Kelleher because he is a PL starter…….horsesh*t

Well when Kelleher ever plays week to week then we can assess him properly. Until then we wont know. I have no doubt Bazunu will.come out of this bad spell.

But there is this preconception that being a weekly starter automatically makes you better than someone who is not a weekly starter. CK is not a weekly starter right now due to being No 2 behind one of the best keepers in the world 
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Originally posted by Greener92 Greener92 wrote:

But he’s still better than Kelleher because he is a PL starter…….horsesh*t

Well when Kelleher ever plays week to week then we can assess him properly. Until then we wont know. I have no doubt Bazunu will.come out of this bad spell.
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But he’s still better than Kelleher because he is a PL starter…….horsesh*t
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Sadly he’s going to have to be dropped soon 

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So Bazanu is sh*te now too lol. God are we ever going to get even one good solid premiership footballer from this country again.
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Disastrous season for him unfortunately. He's young and got a good head on his shoulders, he'll be fine.
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if he gets dropped suddenly our brilliant goalkeeping situation will compromise of 3 benchwarmers....
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The first is a howler simple as! The 2nd he hasn’t covered himself in glory but as I said midweek it’s not Bazunus fault Niles and now Perraud can’t cross their legs or kick a ball properly! What’s in front of him is as shambolic as Bazunu is currently and that’s no good to him! 

There has been zero positive for him really this season! To think he turned down Benfica for that move! 


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Was only marginally less awful for the second, took a big air swing with his left arm, completely missed the ball and it cannoned off his own defender and in.
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Questions over the 2nd goal now also. Looks like he'll be dropped off and rightly so 
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