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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:12pm |
irishmufc wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/eamonn-sweeney-have-you-ever-seen-a-starker-contrast-between-sports-than-the-hurling-final-and-irelands-qualifiers-36116885.html
"So itβs unfair to compare soccer with hurling. The first is a game, the second an art. And like all great art, it ennobles not just the creator but the connoisseur"
Good writer or not, Sweeney (who was probably dancing in the streets like the rest of us during Italia 90) can get fooked.
Hurling is an "art" that no country gives a fook about outside of Ireland. Any achievements in either of the two main gah sports will always pale in comparison to our national football team qualifying for a world cup or any major tournament.
If we had beaten Serbia (the game Sweeney was alluding to) that night at home, it would've seen us qualify as group winners with only a point needed in Wales.
An entertaining hurling final doesn't compare to qualification for a major tournament on the international stage. The qualification/months of build up and the whole country being behind the Irish team is something the sport which Sweeney calls an art, will never ever surpass.
Rant over anyway
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Many times in recent years there has been a stark contrast between the brilliance of the hurling final and the utter turgidity of Ireland qualifiers
Bizarre "point" about hurling not being popular outside Ireland, as if that has any connection to its worth as a sport - it doesn't - it only demonstrates that Ireland is a tiny country without much historical or contemporary international political, cultural or media influence
Ireland didn't qualify for the 2018 World Cup, if they'd got enough points to qualify, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't
If they'd won the play-off, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't, and neither will they be qualifying for a World Cup for a long time
Not sure how you make out the Ireland team qualifying for the last 16 at a 24 team Euros is a greater sporting achievement than winning an All-Ireland, but carry on
Think you'll find that winning an All-Ireland is celebrated as much and more in most counties than Ireland qualifying for a finals in association football
I suppose being from a county which has never won an All-Ireland in your lifetime you wouldn't be in the best position to know that
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Believe me Sid, it means more to you than it does to me if Mayo win an All-Ireland. I would swap Mayo never winning it for Conor Ray Charles Hourihane burying his 5 yard chance in Slovakia.
It's 'we' and 'us' when it's Liverpool and 'they' when it comes to Ireland but I suspect that might be fishing more than anything so congrats hook,line and sinker on that one
The bigger achievement is how our country does on the international stage. As someone that follows Mayo in the gah and enjoys watching hurling matches, any achievement in the gah sport has nowhere near the impact around the world in sporting terms the way a last minute Robbie Keane equaliser against Germany would.
In terms of a spectator sport hurling is probably more exciting to watch than football and I can understand Sweeney saying the hurling final was more enjoyable than the Ireland qualifier. Objectively speaking it was but his description of hurling being an art in comparison to the football was pretentious 'proper mans game' gah bollocks.
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"The bigger achievement" is how our country does on the international stage"
This sentence doesn't even make any sense
Association football is more popular around the world, duh
The fact is Ireland have never achieved anything much of note at international level
Our best "achievement" at a finals tournament involved winning 0 of 5 matches and scoring two goals, both from mistakes
Of course I say "us" about Liverpool, why , wouldn't I, they're the team I follow most, sorry, we
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:21pm |
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The competition to be an elite footballer is far more onerous than to be an elite footballer. A k knowledge of basic maths and logic would.tell you that.
Good spot muf on the calling liverpool we πππ
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Make up your mind about which is more onerous, elite footballer or elite footballer
K is a thousand, that's basic maths
All-Ireland hurling finals get 82k attending, more people attend hurling in Ireland each year than association football, the Irish team rarely sells out Lansdowne Road
Followed the Irish team closely, attending most matches for well over two decades, late 80s to early 2010s
I can take or leave the team now, like most people, it'd be nice to see them do well but I can get over them not doing well pretty quickly, it doesn't matter like it used to
Yes, certainly I would be much more interested in Liverpool over the last decade or so
The reality now is that most younger people aren't that bothered at all about how the team does and I think most people have accepted we'll never see anything like the Charlton years or even the McCarthy years ever again in our lifetimes
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:22pm |
sid waddell wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/eamonn-sweeney-have-you-ever-seen-a-starker-contrast-between-sports-than-the-hurling-final-and-irelands-qualifiers-36116885.html
"So itβs unfair to compare soccer with hurling. The first is a game, the second an art. And like all great art, it ennobles not just the creator but the connoisseur"
Good writer or not, Sweeney (who was probably dancing in the streets like the rest of us during Italia 90) can get fooked.
Hurling is an "art" that no country gives a fook about outside of Ireland. Any achievements in either of the two main gah sports will always pale in comparison to our national football team qualifying for a world cup or any major tournament.
If we had beaten Serbia (the game Sweeney was alluding to) that night at home, it would've seen us qualify as group winners with only a point needed in Wales.
An entertaining hurling final doesn't compare to qualification for a major tournament on the international stage. The qualification/months of build up and the whole country being behind the Irish team is something the sport which Sweeney calls an art, will never ever surpass.
Rant over anyway
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Many times in recent years there has been a stark contrast between the brilliance of the hurling final and the utter turgidity of Ireland qualifiers
Bizarre "point" about hurling not being popular outside Ireland, as if that has any connection to its worth as a sport - it doesn't - it only demonstrates that Ireland is a tiny country without much historical or contemporary international political, cultural or media influence
Ireland didn't qualify for the 2018 World Cup, if they'd got enough points to qualify, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't
If they'd won the play-off, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't, and neither will they be qualifying for a World Cup for a long time
Not sure how you make out the Ireland team qualifying for the last 16 at a 24 team Euros is a greater sporting achievement than winning an All-Ireland, but carry on
Think you'll find that winning an All-Ireland is celebrated as much and more in most counties than Ireland qualifying for a finals in association football
I suppose being from a county which has never won an All-Ireland in your lifetime you wouldn't be in the best position to know that
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Believe me Sid, it means more to you than it does to me if Mayo win an All-Ireland. I would swap Mayo never winning it for Conor Ray Charles Hourihane burying his 5 yard chance in Slovakia.
It's 'we' and 'us' when it's Liverpool and 'they' when it comes to Ireland but I suspect that might be fishing more than anything so congrats hook,line and sinker on that one
The bigger achievement is how our country does on the international stage. As someone that follows Mayo in the gah and enjoys watching hurling matches, any achievement in the gah sport has nowhere near the impact around the world in sporting terms the way a last minute Robbie Keane equaliser against Germany would.
In terms of a spectator sport hurling is probably more exciting to watch than football and I can understand Sweeney saying the hurling final was more enjoyable than the Ireland qualifier. Objectively speaking it was but his description of hurling being an art in comparison to the football was pretentious 'proper mans game' gah bollocks.
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"The bigger achievement" is how our country does on the international stage"
This sentence doesn't even make any sense
Association football is more popular around the world, duh
The fact is Ireland have never achieved anything much of note at international level
Our best "achievement" at a finals tournament involved winning 0 of 5 matches and scoring two goals, both from mistakes
Of course I say "us" about Liverpool, why , wouldn't I, they're the team I follow most, sorry, we
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I don't understand how that doesn't make sense. It's a bigger achievement any Irish team does on the world stage than within Ireland on one of the gah sports.
Anyway you follow Liverpool more than Ireland. Fair enough.
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:35pm |
irishmufc wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
irishmufc wrote:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/eamonn-sweeney-have-you-ever-seen-a-starker-contrast-between-sports-than-the-hurling-final-and-irelands-qualifiers-36116885.html
"So itβs unfair to compare soccer with hurling. The first is a game, the second an art. And like all great art, it ennobles not just the creator but the connoisseur"
Good writer or not, Sweeney (who was probably dancing in the streets like the rest of us during Italia 90) can get fooked.
Hurling is an "art" that no country gives a fook about outside of Ireland. Any achievements in either of the two main gah sports will always pale in comparison to our national football team qualifying for a world cup or any major tournament.
If we had beaten Serbia (the game Sweeney was alluding to) that night at home, it would've seen us qualify as group winners with only a point needed in Wales.
An entertaining hurling final doesn't compare to qualification for a major tournament on the international stage. The qualification/months of build up and the whole country being behind the Irish team is something the sport which Sweeney calls an art, will never ever surpass.
Rant over anyway
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Many times in recent years there has been a stark contrast between the brilliance of the hurling final and the utter turgidity of Ireland qualifiers
Bizarre "point" about hurling not being popular outside Ireland, as if that has any connection to its worth as a sport - it doesn't - it only demonstrates that Ireland is a tiny country without much historical or contemporary international political, cultural or media influence
Ireland didn't qualify for the 2018 World Cup, if they'd got enough points to qualify, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't
If they'd won the play-off, they'd have qualified, but they didn't, so they didn't, and neither will they be qualifying for a World Cup for a long time
Not sure how you make out the Ireland team qualifying for the last 16 at a 24 team Euros is a greater sporting achievement than winning an All-Ireland, but carry on
Think you'll find that winning an All-Ireland is celebrated as much and more in most counties than Ireland qualifying for a finals in association football
I suppose being from a county which has never won an All-Ireland in your lifetime you wouldn't be in the best position to know that
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Believe me Sid, it means more to you than it does to me if Mayo win an All-Ireland. I would swap Mayo never winning it for Conor Ray Charles Hourihane burying his 5 yard chance in Slovakia.
It's 'we' and 'us' when it's Liverpool and 'they' when it comes to Ireland but I suspect that might be fishing more than anything so congrats hook,line and sinker on that one
The bigger achievement is how our country does on the international stage. As someone that follows Mayo in the gah and enjoys watching hurling matches, any achievement in the gah sport has nowhere near the impact around the world in sporting terms the way a last minute Robbie Keane equaliser against Germany would.
In terms of a spectator sport hurling is probably more exciting to watch than football and I can understand Sweeney saying the hurling final was more enjoyable than the Ireland qualifier. Objectively speaking it was but his description of hurling being an art in comparison to the football was pretentious 'proper mans game' gah bollocks.
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"The bigger achievement" is how our country does on the international stage"
This sentence doesn't even make any sense
Association football is more popular around the world, duh
The fact is Ireland have never achieved anything much of note at international level
Our best "achievement" at a finals tournament involved winning 0 of 5 matches and scoring two goals, both from mistakes
Of course I say "us" about Liverpool, why , wouldn't I, they're the team I follow most, sorry, we
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I don't understand how that doesn't make sense. It's a bigger achievement any Irish team does on the world stage than within Ireland on one of the gah sports.
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How so
The achievement is by players to make it as professionals
The biggest Irish football achievements were personal ones by Ronnie Whelan and Roy Keane to become the main men in the best teams in Europe
Ireland reaching a World Cup quarter-final playing sh*te football, with a load of players from the top UK teams, is not that big an achievement as a team
You're confusing achievement with excitement
By your rationale England reaching a football World Cup quarter-final is a bigger achievement than England reaching a rugby or cricket World Cup
But it isn't
The basic fact is our international team has achieved sod all of note
I would argue their biggest "achievements" were beating England and Italy at finals, but they followed it up with nothing
And it's not that big an achievement to win a game of football
Like, I'm sure people in Norway were excited they beat Brazil in 1998 but it doesn't exactly go down as a great achievement in the pantheon of football, or probably even in Norwegian sport
If we'd actually won something like Denmark or Uruguay or reached a final or even a semi-final like Croatia, then you'd be talking
Maybe Ray Charles might have stuck the ball in the net from two yards in Slovakia if Stevie Wonder wasn't managing him
I'm surprised that somebody who has "mufc" in their user name gets all annoyed at somebody calling Liverpool "we"
That's probably why I do it actually
Keep jumping
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:39pm |
to be a an elite hurler.
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:41pm |
sid waddell wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The competition to be an elite footballer is far more onerous than to be an elite footballer. A k knowledge of basic maths and logic would.tell you that.
Good spot muf on the calling liverpool we πππ
You would wonder why sid even appears on this site when hurling, premier league football and the Russians and trump are far bigger interests of his than irish football. |
Make up your mind about which is more onerous, elite footballer or elite footballer
K is a thousand, that's basic maths
All-Ireland hurling finals get 82k attending, more people attend hurling in Ireland each year than association football, the Irish team rarely sells out Lansdowne Road
Followed the Irish team closely, attending most matches for well over two decades, late 80s to early 2010s
I can take or leave the team now, like most people, it'd be nice to see them do well but I can get over them not doing well pretty quickly, it doesn't matter like it used to
Yes, certainly I would be much more interested in Liverpool over the last decade or so
The reality now is that most younger people aren't that bothered at all about how the team does and I think most people have accepted we'll never see anything like the Charlton years or even the McCarthy years ever again in our lifetimes
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If you have no interest in the team what are you doing on the site then other than just boring others on here and clogging up threads. There have been plenty of WUM like you that have come and gone and I am sure you will to when you are less bored.
The mods know what they should do with WUM like you.
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Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 11:58pm |
Baldrick wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The competition to be an elite footballer is far more onerous than to be an elite footballer. A k knowledge of basic maths and logic would.tell you that.
Good spot muf on the calling liverpool we πππ
You would wonder why sid even appears on this site when hurling, premier league football and the Russians and trump are far bigger interests of his than irish football. |
Make up your mind about which is more onerous, elite footballer or elite footballer
K is a thousand, that's basic maths
All-Ireland hurling finals get 82k attending, more people attend hurling in Ireland each year than association football, the Irish team rarely sells out Lansdowne Road
Followed the Irish team closely, attending most matches for well over two decades, late 80s to early 2010s
I can take or leave the team now, like most people, it'd be nice to see them do well but I can get over them not doing well pretty quickly, it doesn't matter like it used to
Yes, certainly I would be much more interested in Liverpool over the last decade or so
The reality now is that most younger people aren't that bothered at all about how the team does and I think most people have accepted we'll never see anything like the Charlton years or even the McCarthy years ever again in our lifetimes
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If you have no interest in the team what are you doing on the site then other than just being boring others on here and clogging up threads. Therefore have been plenty of WUM like you that have come and gone and I am sure you will to.
The mods know what they should do with WUM like you.
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Only one person who's wumming here m8
And even that's a really poor effort as it goes
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Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 12:15am |
thatβs a bit unfair on muf π
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Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 7:40am |
Baldrick wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
The competition to be an elite footballer is far more onerous than to be an elite footballer. A k knowledge of basic maths and logic would.tell you that.
Good spot muf on the calling liverpool we πππ
You would wonder why sid even appears on this site when hurling, premier league football and the Russians and trump are far bigger interests of his than irish football. |
Make up your mind about which is more onerous, elite footballer or elite footballer
K is a thousand, that's basic maths
All-Ireland hurling finals get 82k attending, more people attend hurling in Ireland each year than association football, the Irish team rarely sells out Lansdowne Road
Followed the Irish team closely, attending most matches for well over two decades, late 80s to early 2010s
I can take or leave the team now, like most people, it'd be nice to see them do well but I can get over them not doing well pretty quickly, it doesn't matter like it used to
Yes, certainly I would be much more interested in Liverpool over the last decade or so
The reality now is that most younger people aren't that bothered at all about how the team does and I think most people have accepted we'll never see anything like the Charlton years or even the McCarthy years ever again in our lifetimes
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If you have no interest in the team what are you doing on the site then other than just boring others on here and clogging up threads. Therefore have been plenty of WUM like you that have come and gone and I am sure you will to.
The mods know what they should do with WUM like you.
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If Ireland were playing in Cambridge I would go to London for the day now, but I have a bad habit of reading here, especially when having a sh*te.
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If Ireland were playing in Cambridge I would go to London for the day now, but I have a bad habit of reading here, especially when having a sh*te.
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I see what you are saying PM. But I have no inclination to hop on to the Celtic forum and start posting about anything but Celtic and when I do post about Celtic to say I have no interest in them etc. The same for any forum really on topics or teams that I do not care for. Itβs bizarre behaviour really. The thing that made this forum was a sense of community that we all supported the Irish football team no matter what. Now thatβs not a call for no criticism of the team far from it as criticism is at least caring about the team. However openly running down even the idea of the irish football team on a Irish football forum is the work of A WUM in my opinion.
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You need to get out of that echo chamber, Baldrick
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for the next Ybig quiz it will be Sid Bingo. Shout Bingo when he uses the following
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Winner gets a free Liverpool/Kilkenny half and half jersey.
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If Ireland were playing in Cambridge I would go to London for the day now, but I have a bad habit of reading here, especially when having a sh*te.
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I would be insulted if there wasn't. The attraction of this place is most of the posters are the sort of people you would go out of your way to avoid and I hope that is mutual. Anyway, it is 20 quid, so that should put you off.
Baldy, I haven't much interest in Celtic since the Dubai debacle, it was the moment I realised I might as well be supporting Coca-Cola. I still follow what's going on, like with Ireland, if not the matches. Ireland won't even be playing in a tournament I might have an interest in for few
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pre Madonna wrote:
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pre Madonna wrote:
If Ireland were playing in Cambridge I would go to London for the day now, but I have a bad habit of reading here, especially when having a sh*te.
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I would be insulted if there wasn't. The attraction of this place is most of the posters are the sort of people you would go out of your way to avoid and I hope that is mutual. Anyway, it is 20 quid, so that should put you off.
Baldy, I haven't much interest in Celtic since the Dubai debacle, it was the moment I realised I might as well be supporting Coca-Cola. I still follow what's going on, like with Ireland, if not the matches. Ireland won't even be playing in a tournament I might have an interest in for few |
Celtic was just an example. I could have picked Liverpool or Tipp hurling or the Tory party. Either way I have no inclination to go on to their forums and talk about any topic but the principle topic the forum was set up to cover. Itβs bizarre behaviour and I think boredom is probably the reason. Either way itβs the work of a WUM imo and it does the site so service when those who are genuinely interested are leaving the site or not posting and those that have no interest are posting loads.
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You are correct, I guess. It is a mixture of mild interest and amusement, especially at some of the things you get on here. I imagine that could be considered wumming.
I do have an interest in the posts about the teams, players and characters from the past though. Like anybody using anything on the Internet, it is entirely for my own satisfaction though. I don't come on here worrying about anybody else, nor is it a disservice; just don't read it. You would also question how much interest they really had in the first place?
Anyway, this was a genuinely interesting thread until the quidditch debate popped up.
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Baldrick wrote:
for the next Ybig quiz it will be Sid Bingo. Shout Bingo when he uses the following
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Only one poster gaslighting here Baldy and it's yerself
Zero substance to yer contributions, but shure what's new
Basically what's happened is I correctly said Ireland played sh*te football in 1990 and correctly placed the Ireland international team's "achievements" in context, ie. that they weren't that great at all as achievements
Now you're all offended because of that
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Baldrick wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Newryrep wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
If Ireland were playing in Cambridge I would go to London for the day now, but I have a bad habit of reading here, especially when having a sh*te.
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I would be insulted if there wasn't. The attraction of this place is most of the posters are the sort of people you would go out of your way to avoid and I hope that is mutual. Anyway, it is 20 quid, so that should put you off.
Baldy, I haven't much interest in Celtic since the Dubai debacle, it was the moment I realised I might as well be supporting Coca-Cola. I still follow what's going on, like with Ireland, if not the matches. Ireland won't even be playing in a tournament I might have an interest in for few |
Celtic was just an example. I could have picked Liverpool or Tipp hurling or the Tory party. Either way I have no inclination to go on to their forums and talk about any topic but the principle topic the forum was set up to cover. Itβs bizarre behaviour and I think boredom is probably the reason. Either way itβs the work of a WUM imo and it does the site so service when those who are genuinely interested are leaving the site or not posting and those that have no interest are posting loads. |
Who made you the thought police?
The pompousness of you
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