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Does seem strange McGrath wasn't called up to this. had a great season and Kenny knows him well from managing him at Dundalk.
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Shodipo and Sykes are two others that might have merited a call up here. Both finished the season strongly with Oxford. Maybe Harness at Portsmouth also.

I wouldn't have said any of those three would be certs to get in, but if we were ever going to have a look at them, now would be the time.

I'm not sure there's much to gain from continuing to call up Arter and Horgan, who have been picked in their positions.
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Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

Seemingly no efforts made to recruit anyone new. Then again who would want to play for us under the current setup. Andorra will fancy their chances.

Going on nothing but a hunch, I’d say we got knocked back by a couple of players who may not fancy a camp like this at the end of a season.

Also, with the Under 21 squad in Spain at the same time there is a lot of potential for players to move between the two groups, at least before the squad goes to Hungary for the second game.

I don’t know if the two squads will be in camp together but we are essentially going to be evaluating a ton of players at one time across two camps. Waiting for the U21 squad with interest.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

What's Jamie McGrath like? 17 goals for a #8 or a #10 seems to be a good return regardless of what league it's played in. 

Is this someone to be excited about?

He's decent but I wouldn't get too excited. A lot of those goals were penalties. He is excellent from dead balls but goes missing at times in open play. 

Well worth a look in this squad though given the absentees - I certainly don't object to him being in there.
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Seemingly no efforts made to recruit anyone new. Then again who would want to play for us under the current setup. Andorra will fancy their chances.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Scully involved in playoff so understandable


So is Hourihane though.
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Scully involved in playoff so understandable


So is Hourihane though.
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What's Jamie McGrath like? 17 goals for a #8 or a #10 seems to be a good return regardless of what league it's played in. 

Is this someone to be excited about?
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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Easily the weakest Ireland squad since the infamous Staunton US tour in 2007. 

Some of the surprise call ups can't have been picked on form, Kenny clearly has his favourites.

While there were obviously going to be a lot of changes with this squad, a lot of the replacements have not merited their callups.

Just another pointer to the fact that the manager is way out of his depth unfortunately.

Who has he left out that available that you think he should have picked?

Mcnamara, Obafemi and Scully are three that instantly come to mind who, as far as I know, are fit and available. It's also unclear which O'Connor he has selected, but if it's Lee then he has picked the wrong one.

Call ups picked on form? are you joking?

How is his situation any different to Idah or Ogbene's really?

He has been out injured for months, got himself back to full fitness, played a couple of Premier League games as a sub and looked sharp. Like many of our young players, we don't know for sure what his level will be in three or four years time but, in the context of the number of absentees this time around, he should absolutely be in there.

I get that Scully is still involved in the playoffs, but that's shouldn't stop him joining for the Ireland games which aren't until June. 

Mcnamara though is the worst of the lot. Unless there's something we don't know in terms of his availability, he has been playing really well at Championship level but has been omitted for a player who has been average at best in League 2. It makes no sense at all.

For me Kenny seems to favour certain players from his under 21 squad but senior football is different and other players who he didn't give much of a chance to at Under 21, such as these three, seem to have adapted better to the senior game. It's worrying that he can't seem to see that.


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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

none of Browne, Stevens, Hendrick or Clark are injured. 

Kenny saying Stevens and Browne need rest.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

The FAI presser is so amateur. It's such a simple task to get this right and they manage to make a balls of it.

Can't hear it properly too.

I know it was done live and they just posted it up straight away but could they not have edited out the 50 odds minutes before Kenny arrived. 
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The FAI presser is so amateur. It's such a simple task to get this right and they manage to make a balls of it.

Can't hear it properly too.
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Scully involved in playoff so understandable.

McGrath in on form obviously. Mandriou I assume is in based on skill set in the final third which is badly needed. Unreal on his day. That day is somewhat infrequent unfortunately. 
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Scully, Macnamara, and Obafemi would be ideal additions. Arter is a bizarre one.

Otherwise, not too upset with it. We don’t have the players we did. Hopefully that changes in the next couple of years but for the purposes of a glorified training camp this is OK.
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MacNamara and Scully should be in for me.

Obafemi too as if Idah can be in after a few mins on the pitch post a long injury, why can't Obafemi unless he's with the 21's, which we'll find out tomorrow.
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Why bring McClean, Coleman,Arter and Randolph

Should of have gave some of the younger players a chance
 

Coleman and Randolph more then warrant their presence. We can’t sack off every player. Doherty Egan Duffy Robinson the others of the established brigade for me warrant their place for sure. More then enough credit in the bank for country and club as far as Doherty goes. 

When I say place I men’s squad place. You need a spine/older presence.

McNamara I agree would love to see come in ahead of Christie as 3rd choice. They are examples of the type of player I’d be looking to bring in and phase out.



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I'm disappointed that he hasn't given more of the Under 21s a look.
I know the 21s have a couple of games but if the ultimate goal is to make the senior team stronger in the long term then getting some of those that experience would stand to them.
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