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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Not sure of your point here
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nvidic
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Why would the English papers carry that? Of no relevance to them, might get a small paragraph here if it was the other way around but no more.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Media framing like the following example is really annoying There's far too much deference to right-wing power, by refusing to call things as they are Can the media and its commentators stop calling Boris Johnson’s Internal Market Bill “controversial”.
Call it what it is: illegal
The Bill is illegal
MP’s are divided between those who respect and uphold the rule of law versus those who do not.
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Huggybeer
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 1435 |
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Point was that mainstream media steer us in a direction to suit a narrative as much as social media and its very easy to trust mainstream sources |
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Getting old and intolerant
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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I'm still not sure of your point above An Irishman was stabbed to death in Spain This was covered by the Irish media I don't know whether any news outlet in Britain covered it in any significant way but I would presume not, which is hardly surprising That isn't a conspiracy, it's the nature of news reporting generally covering stories that are relevant to the area that the outlet in question is based in, ie. an Irishman being stabbed to death in Spain is not hugely newsworthy for a UK national newspaper Of course traditional media has editorial biases as regards framing and story selection - every outlet does - it's literally impossible not to have But editorial bias which attempts to create a particular view of the world is particular problem on the right - one only has to look at the British tabloids and Tory media The Times refusing to mention the verdict of the Hillsborough inquest on its front page in 2016 was a particularly horrible example, and that decision was clearly driven by embarrassment that a fellow Murdoch paper had done so much to spread the persistent lies that so unfairly tarnished the victims and survivors and created hell for the families of the victims - so they swept the news of the verdict, which was utterly damning for Murdoch media, under the carpet The whole Brexit thing could not have happened without years, decades of lies by the Tory media Trump could not have happened without the US right-wing media creating a pretty much fictional view of the world Your example above is a very poor one however
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Olaf
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Do Irish papers print gang stabbings in Manchester or London, daily? As that’s what occurs here, no they don’t.
I’m mind boggled to this one now. Papers print what sells papers and what their readers want to read, as ultimately a paper is a business. Without papers selling they go bankrupt. If the Guardian started printing pieces on supporting Gove they’d lose sales. Visa versa if the Telegrath/Times started printing support for Corbyn they’d lose sales also.
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sid waddell
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Journalism is supposed to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted
Right-wing media generally comforts the comfortable and afflicts the afflicted
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nvidic
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What narrative did the English press take by not covering an Irishman stabbed in Spain?
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Baldrick
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just bought the Kerryman and no mention of a lad in Bueonos Aires who won the lotto there worth 10million but some mention Of a lad who won the Crokes lotto of 3,000. Typical media bias
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AKA pedantic kunt
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Slow & Blind
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Was that the North Kerryman or South Kerryman?
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MC Hammered
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I see Jennifer Zamperelli has invited an Anti Mask advocate on to her 2FM show tomorrow
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El Puto Amo
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Michael Clifford both sidesing yesterday's fascist demonstration
And he's a journalist I would previously have had a bit of respect for Very disappointing If the media keeps doing this, we have a big problem |
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seanyshuffler
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What does sidesing mean, sorry?
Didn't listen to all of brendan o Connor today but they mentioned it in passing in terms of covid, giving out about both sides. Besides that it seemed like there was very few there and your man Barrett doesn't seem like he'd be much of a figurehead. Guards should really be cracking down on this though. Seemed like a lot of hate speech yesterday.
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sid waddell
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Both sidesing is a derivative of false equivalence
Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing That's what Clifford did yesterday Another example of both sidesing is right-wing commentators who inferred that Biden was equally to blame for the sh*tshow the debate the other week turned into, when Trump was 99.8% to blame, with the other 0.2% blame being on the moderator Both sidesing is a cancer on public debate and consistently benefits appalling politics It is also a moral disgrace
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Jackal
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That's a political theory called the Horseshoe effect.
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sid waddell
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It's not As an aside, punching Nazis should always be encouraged, because they're Nazis
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Jackal
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Yes it is a theory, you don't have to agree with it but it is an established political theory.
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sid waddell
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Yes it is a theory and it is not what this is
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