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Spot on with the calculations and points total it seems.
Hopefully next month is better for us.
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I found the flaws in my spreadsheet, but now have been able to cross check it and have fixed it.

One important thing about next month, out of the teams from 17-24 which are very close on points, teams 21-24 are all in Euro Playoff games, the rest are all in friendlies.

Qualification games are statistically 2.5 times more important than friendlies, so this could either push us up the rankings quite nicely or push us down to where it is unlikely to reach 20 again. Very important month ahead
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Best case scenario for us to get the most points and jump up the rankings ladder
Path A: BUL to beat ISL in final
Path B: IRL to beat NIR in final
Path C: ISR to beat NOR in final
Path D: KVX to beat GEO in final
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Any difference points wise if the Slovak game is decided in 90, 120 or pens?
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Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Any difference points wise if the Slovak game is decided in 90, 120 or pens?

No difference between 90 and 120 mins. Pens gives you less points if you win, but you also lose less if you lose on pens

EDIT: Losing on pens gives you the same points as a draw. Winning on pens gives you points half way between a win and draw


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Strange one - I thought whatever points one team gained, the other lost.

This would not be the case in the pen shootout scenario so?
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Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Strange one - I thought whatever points one team gained, the other lost.

This would not be the case in the pen shootout scenario so?

Nope. The explanation is here under the title Additional Conditions

https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/fifa-world-ranking-technical-explanation-revision.pdf?cloudid=edbm045h0udbwkqew35a

I know the formula itself is really technical, but the simplest way to explain is to look at the value for W. This is 1 for a win, 0.5 for a draw and 0 for a loss*

* 90/120 mins

Winning in a penalty shootout assigns 0.75 to a win (so half way between a win and draw) and 0.5 to lose in pens (so exactly like a draw in 90/120)
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Updated rankings as of tonight's friendlies
Live rankChangeLive rateChange
10BEL17730
20FRA17473
30ENG16640
40POR16530
50ESP16420
60CRO16335
70ITA16121
81GER1601-1
9-1NED1599-5
101DEN15952
11-1SUI1595-5
120SWE15670
130POL15623
140WAL15500
150UKR1536-3
160AUT15104
171TUR14861
18-1SRB14860
190RUS14850
200ROU14830
210SVK14790
220IRL14750
230NIR14680
240ISL14570
250NOR14520
260CZE14493
270SCO14280
280BIH14260
290HUN14180
300GRE1409-4
310FIN1386-3
320BUL13780
330MNE1374-3
340SVN13691
350MKD13510
360ALB13510
370BLR12820
380GEO12740
390ISR12650
401CYP1233-3
41-1LUX1229-8
420ARM12150
430FRO1189-2
440EST1182-6
450AZE11790
460KVX11670
470KAZ11560
480LTU10996
490LVA10793
500AND1073-3
510MDA958-1
520LIE9408
530MLT9225
540GIB881-5
550SMR810-1

Nothing major of note from tonight. If Austria had lost against Greece it would have made grabbing 16th a little bit more manageable by the end of the year.

Also Turkey getting a late equaliser against Germany doesn't help.

Winning tomorrow will move us to 17th best case scenario, or 20th worst case (depending on how Serbia Romania, and Russia do)

Edit: I forgot to take into account Russia are playing Sweden in a friendly tomorrow


Edited by davereilly - 07 Oct 2020 at 10:03pm
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We should have sent Johnny Logan again.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

We should have sent Johnny Logan again.

Looks like we sent Mickey Joe Hart again...
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As of 8th October, ironically we jumped up because of Romania losing to Iceland 

Edit: Removed the table since it ruined the formatting of the entire page


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I thought our goose was cooked for 2nd seeds if we lost last night. 

Have we actually a decent chance of getting 2nd seeds in the world cup qualifying draw?
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