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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 3:29pm |
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Wasn't it that someone Mick knew or someone involved in logistics with the FAI had a connection there and set it up, which is why they went a few hours flight beyond Japan to Saipan. I'm sure it's explained in Mick's book that he released after the World Cup, but I've no idea where my copy is now.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 11:19am |
Random but came across a company in work which was based in Saipan and looked it up on a map. it's miles away from Japan.
Why did they go there? (I know obviously for a training camp and to perhaps acclimatise) but could they not have done that somewhere closer to Japan?
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 7:43pm |
 pre Madonna wrote:
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Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?Sure we've all moved on from this, but there'll probably be one or two who still have a mild interest in the story.
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Why is that **** talking to the other **** on a subject neither of the ****s have any knowledge about? How can you have a **** who can't speak on the radio? And Bertie is nearly as bad! |
and unfortunately, he contributes in Finding Jack Charlton.
the man is a schnake. |
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 7:39pm |
McG wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
whitesideOnside wrote:
Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?Sure we've all moved on from this, but there'll probably be one or two who still have a mild interest in the story.
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Why is that **** talking to the other **** on a subject neither of the ****s have any knowledge about? How can you have a **** who can't speak on the radio? And Bertie is nearly as bad! |
and unfortunately, he contributes in Finding Jack Charlton.
the man is a schnake. |
Quimby or Partridge?
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 7:38pm |
pre Madonna wrote:
whitesideOnside wrote:
Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?Sure we've all moved on from this, but there'll probably be one or two who still have a mild interest in the story.
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Why is that **** talking to the other **** on a subject neither of the ****s have any knowledge about? How can you have a **** who can't speak on the radio? And Bertie is nearly as bad! |
and unfortunately, he contributes in Finding Jack Charlton.
the man is a schnake.
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 7:36pm |
whitesideOnside wrote:
Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?Sure we've all moved on from this, but there'll probably be one or two who still have a mild interest in the story.
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Why is that **** talking to the other **** on a subject neither of the ****s have any knowledge about? How can you have a **** who can't speak on the radio? And Bertie is nearly as bad!
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 7:28pm |
Fitz wrote:
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Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?
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Have they nothing else to talk about ffs? 🙄
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Amazingly it was discussed on four different newstalk shows today.
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 6:40pm |
whitesideOnside wrote:
Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away?
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Have they nothing else to talk about ffs? 🙄
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Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 10:08am |
Bertie Ahern will be on the Pat Kenny show on Newstalk this morning discussing if Roy was right to walk away? Sure we've all moved on from this, but there'll probably be one or two who still have a mild interest in the story.
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Posted: 29 May 2020 at 6:13pm |
Yiksheemash wrote:
newrynyuk wrote:
Yiksheemash wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Territorial wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
You are absolutely delusional if you believe that. I know it might suit your general narrative to try and paint this as some sort of "stupid Paddy had unrealistic notions, and then didn't even have the gumption to follow through!" situation, but that simply is not based in any kind of reality. No one, and I literally mean no one, expected Roy Keane to drag Ireland to World Cup victory. Suggesting that Keane downed tools because it "suddenly dawned on him" that he could not fulfil this unrealistic goal (which absolutely no one expected of him in the first place) is nothing short of farcical. |
I'm not claiming that anyone else believed that ROI could win it etc.
But I do remember RK's whole spiel about "Not just going there to take part" or "a couple of weeks enjoying ourselves" at a Finals etc. Which tied in with his overall approach to playing, which was that willpower is the most important attribute a player can possess.
And although I can't find a specific reference, there is a curious entry which someone (not me!) has posted on the wiki page on Siapan: Keane, on the other hand, who is reputed to have told Alex Ferguson that he was going to the World Cup "to win it", viewed [the stopover in Saipan] as a period of preparation for the World Cup Finals.
[And yes, I know it's Wiki and there's no citation etc, but it's curious that someone should write that out of context.]
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Every player going into every tournament says "we're here to win". To suggest the reason Keane left is because he had a breakdown realising he could never lead Ireland to literal World Cup Victory is la-la-land stuff 
The reason Keane blew up is glaringly obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense; it was because he was forced to spend an extended amount of time in the presence of (and take direction from) a person who he absolutely despised... He viewed McCarthy not only a useless coach and player, but a useless person. His ego could not handle the fact that he was taking direction from a person who he viewed in such a loathsome manner. Rather than process these emotions in a normal manner, Roy Keane did what Roy Keane does, he seethed until such a point that his anger boiled over in explosive fashion. The rest is history, as they say. |
Roy wasn't wrong there anyway. McCarthy proved that with the Clubs he went onto manage. absolute robbed a living from football management. |
This is in contrast to Keane's stellar management career of course
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you can compare him to Keane all you like in terms of management but it still doesn't take away from the fact he was an absolute dinosaur and robbed a living from football management |
Your totally deluded
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Posted: 29 May 2020 at 11:58am |
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Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:27am |
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You can accuse him of many things but one thing he can manage is a good sh*te, esp if a microwave is nearby.
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Posted: 29 May 2020 at 8:24am |
newrynyuk wrote:
Yiksheemash wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Territorial wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
You are absolutely delusional if you believe that. I know it might suit your general narrative to try and paint this as some sort of "stupid Paddy had unrealistic notions, and then didn't even have the gumption to follow through!" situation, but that simply is not based in any kind of reality. No one, and I literally mean no one, expected Roy Keane to drag Ireland to World Cup victory. Suggesting that Keane downed tools because it "suddenly dawned on him" that he could not fulfil this unrealistic goal (which absolutely no one expected of him in the first place) is nothing short of farcical. |
I'm not claiming that anyone else believed that ROI could win it etc.
But I do remember RK's whole spiel about "Not just going there to take part" or "a couple of weeks enjoying ourselves" at a Finals etc. Which tied in with his overall approach to playing, which was that willpower is the most important attribute a player can possess.
And although I can't find a specific reference, there is a curious entry which someone (not me!) has posted on the wiki page on Siapan: Keane, on the other hand, who is reputed to have told Alex Ferguson that he was going to the World Cup "to win it", viewed [the stopover in Saipan] as a period of preparation for the World Cup Finals.
[And yes, I know it's Wiki and there's no citation etc, but it's curious that someone should write that out of context.]
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Every player going into every tournament says "we're here to win". To suggest the reason Keane left is because he had a breakdown realising he could never lead Ireland to literal World Cup Victory is la-la-land stuff
The reason Keane blew up is glaringly obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense; it was because he was forced to spend an extended amount of time in the presence of (and take direction from) a person who he absolutely despised... He viewed McCarthy not only a useless coach and player, but a useless person. His ego could not handle the fact that he was taking direction from a person who he viewed in such a loathsome manner. Rather than process these emotions in a normal manner, Roy Keane did what Roy Keane does, he seethed until such a point that his anger boiled over in explosive fashion. The rest is history, as they say. |
Roy wasn't wrong there anyway. McCarthy proved that with the Clubs he went onto manage. absolute robbed a living from football management. |
This is in contrast to Keane's stellar management career of course
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you can compare him to Keane all you like in terms of management but it still doesn't take away from the fact he was an absolute dinosaur and robbed a living from football management
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Posted: 28 May 2020 at 10:14pm |
Yiksheemash wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Territorial wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
You are absolutely delusional if you believe that. I know it might suit your general narrative to try and paint this as some sort of "stupid Paddy had unrealistic notions, and then didn't even have the gumption to follow through!" situation, but that simply is not based in any kind of reality. No one, and I literally mean no one, expected Roy Keane to drag Ireland to World Cup victory. Suggesting that Keane downed tools because it "suddenly dawned on him" that he could not fulfil this unrealistic goal (which absolutely no one expected of him in the first place) is nothing short of farcical. |
I'm not claiming that anyone else believed that ROI could win it etc.
But I do remember RK's whole spiel about "Not just going there to take part" or "a couple of weeks enjoying ourselves" at a Finals etc. Which tied in with his overall approach to playing, which was that willpower is the most important attribute a player can possess.
And although I can't find a specific reference, there is a curious entry which someone (not me!) has posted on the wiki page on Siapan: Keane, on the other hand, who is reputed to have told Alex Ferguson that he was going to the World Cup "to win it", viewed [the stopover in Saipan] as a period of preparation for the World Cup Finals.
[And yes, I know it's Wiki and there's no citation etc, but it's curious that someone should write that out of context.]
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Every player going into every tournament says "we're here to win". To suggest the reason Keane left is because he had a breakdown realising he could never lead Ireland to literal World Cup Victory is la-la-land stuff
The reason Keane blew up is glaringly obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense; it was because he was forced to spend an extended amount of time in the presence of (and take direction from) a person who he absolutely despised... He viewed McCarthy not only a useless coach and player, but a useless person. His ego could not handle the fact that he was taking direction from a person who he viewed in such a loathsome manner. Rather than process these emotions in a normal manner, Roy Keane did what Roy Keane does, he seethed until such a point that his anger boiled over in explosive fashion. The rest is history, as they say. |
Roy wasn't wrong there anyway. McCarthy proved that with the Clubs he went onto manage. absolute robbed a living from football management. |
This is in contrast to Keane's stellar management career of course
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Posted: 28 May 2020 at 9:41am |
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I'd say you're the McCarthy of the construction world Yiks. King Tarmacadam
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Posted: 28 May 2020 at 8:46am |
The O'Shea wrote:
Territorial wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
You are absolutely delusional if you believe that. I know it might suit your general narrative to try and paint this as some sort of "stupid Paddy had unrealistic notions, and then didn't even have the gumption to follow through!" situation, but that simply is not based in any kind of reality. No one, and I literally mean no one, expected Roy Keane to drag Ireland to World Cup victory. Suggesting that Keane downed tools because it "suddenly dawned on him" that he could not fulfil this unrealistic goal (which absolutely no one expected of him in the first place) is nothing short of farcical. |
I'm not claiming that anyone else believed that ROI could win it etc.
But I do remember RK's whole spiel about "Not just going there to take part" or "a couple of weeks enjoying ourselves" at a Finals etc. Which tied in with his overall approach to playing, which was that willpower is the most important attribute a player can possess.
And although I can't find a specific reference, there is a curious entry which someone (not me!) has posted on the wiki page on Siapan: Keane, on the other hand, who is reputed to have told Alex Ferguson that he was going to the World Cup "to win it", viewed [the stopover in Saipan] as a period of preparation for the World Cup Finals.
[And yes, I know it's Wiki and there's no citation etc, but it's curious that someone should write that out of context.]
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Every player going into every tournament says "we're here to win". To suggest the reason Keane left is because he had a breakdown realising he could never lead Ireland to literal World Cup Victory is la-la-land stuff
The reason Keane blew up is glaringly obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense; it was because he was forced to spend an extended amount of time in the presence of (and take direction from) a person who he absolutely despised... He viewed McCarthy not only a useless coach and player, but a useless person. His ego could not handle the fact that he was taking direction from a person who he viewed in such a loathsome manner. Rather than process these emotions in a normal manner, Roy Keane did what Roy Keane does, he seethed until such a point that his anger boiled over in explosive fashion. The rest is history, as they say. |
Roy wasn't wrong there anyway. McCarthy proved that with the Clubs he went onto manage. absolute robbed a living from football management.
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Posted: 27 May 2020 at 4:31pm |
Territorial wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
You are absolutely delusional if you believe that. I know it might suit your general narrative to try and paint this as some sort of "stupid Paddy had unrealistic notions, and then didn't even have the gumption to follow through!" situation, but that simply is not based in any kind of reality. No one, and I literally mean no one, expected Roy Keane to drag Ireland to World Cup victory. Suggesting that Keane downed tools because it "suddenly dawned on him" that he could not fulfil this unrealistic goal (which absolutely no one expected of him in the first place) is nothing short of farcical. |
I'm not claiming that anyone else believed that ROI could win it etc.
But I do remember RK's whole spiel about "Not just going there to take part" or "a couple of weeks enjoying ourselves" at a Finals etc. Which tied in with his overall approach to playing, which was that willpower is the most important attribute a player can possess.
And although I can't find a specific reference, there is a curious entry which someone (not me!) has posted on the wiki page on Siapan: Keane, on the other hand, who is reputed to have told Alex Ferguson that he was going to the World Cup "to win it", viewed [the stopover in Saipan] as a period of preparation for the World Cup Finals.
[And yes, I know it's Wiki and there's no citation etc, but it's curious that someone should write that out of context.]
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Every player going into every tournament says "we're here to win". To suggest the reason Keane left is because he had a breakdown realising he could never lead Ireland to literal World Cup Victory is la-la-land stuff
The reason Keane blew up is glaringly obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of common sense; it was because he was forced to spend an extended amount of time in the presence of (and take direction from) a person who he absolutely despised... He viewed McCarthy not only a useless coach and player, but a useless person. His ego could not handle the fact that he was taking direction from a person who he viewed in such a loathsome manner. Rather than process these emotions in a normal manner, Roy Keane did what Roy Keane does, he seethed until such a point that his anger boiled over in explosive fashion. The rest is history, as they say.
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