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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

As a result of Covid the 5 premier league subs has been approved, good opportunity for some of the younger lads coming through perhaps.

I'm thinking obafemi, kilkenny, connolly etc
That's a bizarre rule! What's the logic, other than they want to introduce it? 

It's temporary until the end of this season - Same in other leagues. It's basically to counteract the increased injury risk and the increased soft tissue injuries that have been seen in other leagues that have restarted already.
Why is there an increase of soft tissue injuries because of Covid?
It not because of Covid but down to the players not being fully conditioned in the way they would be after a normal pre-season 
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It feels like yet another rule designed to help the super rich franchises. It is also fundamentally unfair to change the rules midseason. 
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We have played a huge chunk of the season with the three substitute rule, which has been in place since the 1990s. Some sides have to fill their existing benches with youth players and fringe players to make up the regulation number, while others will have substitutes that would walk into most other teams in the Premier League. All of a sudden, those players, who otherwise wouldn't have been introduced will be, and that can alter games and outcomes in a way that wasn't possible between August-March. Its a fundamental shift.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

As a result of Covid the 5 premier league subs has been approved, good opportunity for some of the younger lads coming through perhaps.

I'm thinking obafemi, kilkenny, connolly etc
That's a bizarre rule! What's the logic, other than they want to introduce it? 

It's temporary until the end of this season - Same in other leagues. It's basically to counteract the increased injury risk and the increased soft tissue injuries that have been seen in other leagues that have restarted already.
Why is there an increase of soft tissue injuries because of Covid?
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

As a result of Covid the 5 premier league subs has been approved, good opportunity for some of the younger lads coming through perhaps.

I'm thinking obafemi, kilkenny, connolly etc
That's a bizarre rule! What's the logic, other than they want to introduce it? 

It's temporary until the end of this season - Same in other leagues. It's basically to counteract the increased injury risk and the increased soft tissue injuries that have been seen in other leagues that have restarted already.
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Funny enough, this type of thing actually weakens any claim to credibility.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

As a result of Covid the 5 premier league subs has been approved, good opportunity for some of the younger lads coming through perhaps.

I'm thinking obafemi, kilkenny, connolly etc
That's a bizarre rule! What's the logic, other than they want to introduce it? 
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As a result of Covid the 5 premier league subs has been approved, good opportunity for some of the younger lads coming through perhaps.

I'm thinking obafemi, kilkenny, connolly etc
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Jack Byrne, has only played 5 competitive games since he started midfield vs New Zealand and I'd imagine the LoI will be much worse affected than the PL or Championship.
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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

[QUOTE=50%lesssugar&salt 
Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

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Sounds like his legs have gone

It doesn't really LOL
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Another possible one is Will Smallbone. He had just started to get a run of games with Southampton. Might be difficult for him to pick up where he left off. 

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Sounds like his legs have gone

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If the premier league do the same as the Bundesliga and change to five subs per game then it will probably mean some of our younger players will get more game time which can only be good. Having watched the Bundesliga the last few weeks there was also a number of younger players making their debuts in the starting 11 so can see the likes of Smallbone, Parrott, Connolly, Idah, Obafemi all benefiting from more game time.
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the break may actually work in players favour. the older players have a lot of mileage on the clock and the break will do them no harm. we maybe only be talking 4 to 6 months so it isn't that significant. 

With young lads, we have a good few players with a lot of games under their belt but also many may develop been away from the club and the pressure associated with becoming a professional footballer. swings and roundabouts. 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Surely that would even out across the board as all the careers and development of all up and coming players would be halted 
Unless they’re Belarusian 

To a degree that makes sense. However this is the first time we have had a group of young players making a breakthrough at the same time in quite a while. I wouldn't be worried about the likes of Molumby or Knight who have a sizeable amount of games under their belts. The likes of Masterson and others who have only made a few appearances might find it tougher. It will also depend on how players react mentally to the situation. This will as you point out be applicable to all players but probably more crucial for younger players.
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Yeah Scotty Hogan was flying - for the first time in years. 

There is a lot of hype about Conor Noss (or Noß) coming off the bench both this weekend and last weekend in the Bundesliga. The problem is that he needs to be on it to be able to come off it. 

Yep, been following that and it's a bit silly.
Lad has never played in a senior game (bar pre-season, I believe) but with a flurry of games, I'd say he will make the bench in some..whether he sees the pitch is a different matter but fair play to him.
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Surely that would even out across the board as all the careers and development of all up and coming players would be halted 
Unless they’re Belarusian 
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The senior players like randolph, mcclean and Long are losing ground on the younger players and each may drop down a league next year. Whelan is playing for Fleetwood and that's too low a standard even for the current position ireland are in.

The big loss that I can see is that its halting the progress made by our emerging players like Connolly, molumby, knight, masterson this season.
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Yeah Scotty Hogan was flying - for the first time in years. 

There is a lot of hype about Conor Noss (or Noß) coming off the bench both this weekend and last weekend in the Bundesliga. The problem is that he needs to be on it to be able to come off it. 
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