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    Posted: 04 May 2020 at 2:07pm
There's been plenty of talk between clubs and the league about how best to return but supporters have not really been part of that discussion so far. 

Our colleagues in Irish Supporters Network have put together a survey to gauge the level of support for LOI football returning behind closed doors / in front of socially distanced crowds etc. 

Will only take a couple of minutes and all responses and shares are welcome.
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Social distancing isn't feasible at a football match, even at Tolka.
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The league should continue with social distancing enforced for the short term at least.

Attendances should be limited for home\away fans and could possibly be increased on how the fans respect the rules above and over time.

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And what about the players ?? Very hard to play football and social distance at same time ??
It's going to be a disaster and not worth the risk. More money lost


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Don't think the league should go ahead behind closed doors myself.

Don't get me wrong, I am missing football more than anyone but with it being only 4/5 games in, if the season cant go ahead with fans it should be voided in my opinion.

The league has been improving steadily over the last few years and I feel a year without revenue gate receipts would only send it back in the wrong direction.

Of course there is the mention of a paid streaming service but in reality I don't feel this will attract the part-time occasional fans which you get on any given week and that teams would be relying on their small hardcore who already have season tickets or memberships and may be due some discount on any streaming of matches which only further cuts the stream of revenue.

As well as that you lose out on programmes, merchandise sales, bar takes, food sales/burger van fees, etc.

I just don't see how it would be feasible to pay players and any other match day expenses when there is very little coming in and feel that it would start to undo most of the good work of the last few years.

Maybe Im wrong and would be interested to hear any counter argument on the matter.
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could a switch back from Summer football to a traditional season be an option and then a condensed season next year before back to Summer football in 2022.
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I'm very worried for the domestic league. With no crowds permitted for quite a while (if there's no vaccine that could be into 2022) where is any revenue going to come from? Streaming is unlikely to plug the gap. So without almost full financial support from government, UEFA or FIFA how can you run any competition?

I really can't see a way around this if there are no spectators allowed.
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Most leagues across Europe must be in a similar situation. So I guess there will be some Europe-wide attempt to save the clubs.

When a disaster like this strikes you might even get some kind of radical solution. A European Super League, conglomeration of smaller leagues or, in our case, the fabled All-Ireland league.


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Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

Most leagues across Europe must be in a similar situation. So I guess there will be some Europe-wide attempt to save the clubs.

When a disaster like this strikes you might even get some kind of radical solution. A European Super League, conglomeration of smaller leagues or, in our case, the fabled All-Ireland league.


Belgian/Dutch league has been mooted previously. Think a Scandinavian one has been as well 
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Celtic have been linked with a north Atlantic league more often than with EPL. It would certainly be the preferred option of the two, seeing as football can't be run as a sport anymore.Cry
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Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

Most leagues across Europe must be in a similar situation. So I guess there will be some Europe-wide attempt to save the clubs.

When a disaster like this strikes you might even get some kind of radical solution. A European Super League, conglomeration of smaller leagues or, in our case, the fabled All-Ireland league.
The All Ireland league is not happening anyway. The Northern Clubs made that clear.
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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

Most leagues across Europe must be in a similar situation. So I guess there will be some Europe-wide attempt to save the clubs.

When a disaster like this strikes you might even get some kind of radical solution. A European Super League, conglomeration of smaller leagues or, in our case, the fabled All-Ireland league.


The All Ireland league is not happening anyway. The Northern Clubs made that clear.


Where is that now?

Posted previously -

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/irish-league/crusaders-chief-eager-to-see-the-plans-for-all-island-football-revolution-38626251.html

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/linfield-and-glentoran-open-to-further-cross-border-league-talks-after-groundbreaking-dundalk-summit-38629875.html



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I heard Niall Quinn on the LoI Weekly podcast. In fairness, from listening to him there seems to be a real concerted effort by himself and the FAI to put in place a structure and, more importantly, the finances to get the league up and running again. 

It has given me a bit more optimism. If there is to be streaming of all games in a concentrated season I hope enough fans pay to watch. After all, we'd be contributing to the survival of our clubs, not just to see a few matches behind closed doors (which isn't all that exciting, to be honest).
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Under normal circumstances the All-Ireland league probably wouldn't happen, but "social distancing" is going to drive clubs to the wall, even if the players are given the all clear to play.

Something will have to emerge from the ruins.

For an Atlantic League type thing, the problem is not the pandemic but our lack of infrastructure. Dundalk would need a brand new stadium.

Or if you really wanted to take advantage of bigger clubs coming into the country, you'd need to use Lansdowne.

So Dundalk and Shamrock Rovers doing a ground share in Lansdowne?

Until the clubs get their own modern grounds it doesn't look a runner. And they can't afford that, so it means the government building multi-use municipal stadiums.

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when is the earliest that the league would come back? 
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on a lower level...the lenister senior league want to finish the season out...with games taking place on 28th August and clubs available to train from 10th August.problem is that I’m hearing a lot of the mid table teams (in the top intermediate league) with nothing to play for can’t get lads to go back for the remaining 9 games.
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