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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

He was still playing in the second division in 1990, moving to Old Trafford that summer and making his debut that season and he was 24 at that point. 
I don't think he was every Charlton's type of player, there was some rumour,  I think, of a disagreement, but most of his caps came over those two campaigns where he was first choice. 
I think by the time Mick came in Fergie was able to tell national managers where to go, see Giggs and Keane, and Mick was bringing through the youth. He was still involved though. His free-kick against Belgium stands out in my mind as being the most 'un-Irish' goal of that decade!

Not sure if Dinny was included in this but didnt Mick tell some of the senior players like McGrath to prove themselves for inclusion?

The folly of a youthful manager in his first real gig. 

That's a myth. McCarthy picked Jeff Kenna for a friendly against Argentina and had Irwin on the bench. When he brought Irwin on he  made a little jibe and told Irwin to 'prove me wrong'. This got twisted into 'prove yourself' in the media and then for dragged up as a stick to beat him with post Saipan.

Irwin always intended retiring post Euro 2000 so that Macedonia goal effectively ended his career despite playing the play offs against Turkey. 
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Given

Irwin
McGrath
Lawrensen
Beglin


Houghton
Keane 
Brady
Duff

Aldridge
Keane

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Kiely

Finnan
McGrath
Dunne
Irwin

Duff
Keane
Sheridan
Houghton

Quinn
Keane
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Based on who I have seen in the flesh:

Given - our best ever keeper, one of the best in the PL for many years. 

Coleman - tough one to call but I would have Coleman ahead of the others for the fact he is such a leader as well. Finnan and Carr two great right backs but neither impressed me in a green shirt as much as Coleman.
Dunne - apart from the Keanes and Duffer probably the next best in the team, put in some heroic performances for us and seemed to get better as the years went on. 
Duffy - in recent years has been our most important player, almost the new Dunne in a way. Such a brave performer.
O'Shea - would have put O'Shea in the middle instead of Duffy but LB is a real weak spot. Harte was good but memories of him are damaged towards the end. O'Shea could perform anywhere and arguably our most consistent performer of the last 20 years.


Whelan - Not spoiled for choice here and despite him getting a fair bit of stick he has always done a good job for us under Trap, MON & Mick. We have had many players in this position who should be selected ahead of him but have ultimately not lived up to expectation.
Keane - too young to remember the majority of his Ireland career but almost single handily won us some games on the way to qualifying for WC2002. Club career speaks for itself.
Walters - In the MON era he really stood up to the plate and was a hugely influential player. Scored some big goals and suited our long ball game so well, was a real blow when he got injured before Euro 2016.
Hoolahan - Criminally underused and one of the best footballers we have produced in my lifetime. We changed how we played when he was on the pitch and will always remember his goal v Sweden (my first game at a tournament).
Duff - on his day I would say he was the best player I've seen in an Ireland jersey. Changed his game as the years went on but was always a class act.

Keane - what can you say, we will be lucky to have someone like him again and my favourite Irish player of all time.
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Which Coleman is that at right-back? I assumed Séamus first, but then I started reading about leaders and thought there must have been another one before my time.
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Originally posted by Ecumenical Matter Ecumenical Matter wrote:

Given

Irwin
McGrath
Lawrensen
Beglin

Houghton
Keane 
Brady
Duff

Aldridge
Keane


That would be close to mine only with Lawrenson at centre half. Wink

Might put Quinn in there ahead of Aldo for the partnership with Robbie, think they really complemented each other when they played together. 
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Dean Kiely LOL
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Keith branagan 

Alex Bruce
Liam Daish 
Curtis Fleming
Darren o'dea 

Lee Carsley
Paul Green 
Stephen mcphail 
Darren Potter 

Tommy Coyne 
Caleb Folan


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:


Keith branagan 

Alex Bruce
Liam Daish 
Curtis Fleming
Darren o'dea 

Lee Carsley
Paul Green 
Stephen mcphail 
Darren Potter 

Tommy Coyne 
Caleb Folan
 
Ridiculous. Paul Butler would definitely be in
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As would Joe O'Cearuill and Joe Lapira.
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Dean Kiely LOL

You might be thinking of Paddy Kenny
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:


Keith branagan 

Alex Bruce
Liam Daish 
Curtis Fleming
Darren o'dea 

Lee Carsley
Paul Green 
Stephen mcphail 
Darren Potter 

Tommy Coyne 
Caleb Folan


Ridiculously harsh on Carsley. And Coyne to a degree.

Keith Branagan 

John Thompson
Alex Bruce
Paul Butler
Liam Daish 


Jim Goodwin
Mike Milligan
Darren Potter 
Joe Lapira

Mickey Evans
Jon Macken




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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Dean Kiely LOL

You might be thinking of Paddy Kenny
Give over. Even you don’t believe kiely is the best keeper you’ve seen play for Ireland.

 Kiely must have about 10 caps. Decent keeper but nowhere near as good as Given. 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:


Keith branagan 

Alex Bruce
Liam Daish 
Curtis Fleming
Darren o'dea 

Lee Carsley
Paul Green 
Stephen mcphail 
Darren Potter 

Tommy Coyne 
Caleb Folan


Ridiculously harsh on Carsley. And Coyne to a degree.

Keith Branagan 

John Thompson
Alex Bruce
Paul Butler
Liam Daish 


Jim Goodwin
Mike Milligan
Darren Potter 
Joe Lapira

Mickey Evans
Jon Macken


You’re asking for trouble playing Lapira on the wing. Poor Liam Daish 
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Carsley? f**k off! Coyne should be nowhere such a side either!
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I thought McPhail was a quality footballer also.
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A formidable line-up indeed but here's one with nobody out of position :

GK: Ron Healey

DF: Eddie Nolan, Joe O'Cearuill, Paul Butler ( capt.), Stephen O'Halloran

MF : Thomas Butler, Synan Braddish, Peter Murphy, Ken de Mange

F : Joe Lapira , Terry Donovan
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Given
Coleman
O'Shea
Dunne
Harte
McGeady
Keane
Hoolahan
Duff
Keane 
Doyle
We're decent enough..
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