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Croftman
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Irwin McGrath Dunne Staunton Duff Whelan Keane Sheedy Keane Quinn
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Some people just deserve a slap
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Baldrick
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Struggling to figure out the formation
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AKA pedantic kunt
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DeclanDaly
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Given Irwin Dunne McGrath Staunton Houghton Keane R. Whelan Sheedy Duff Keane
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You asked if I'd be anyone from history, fact or fiction, dead or alive:
I said "I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995" |
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anyone from McGrath/Moran/O`Leary as fullback on the right. Main attack throughout Jim Beglin, was the best attacking left back in Europe for over two years, even a Calcio move was on the table at the time, until he was injured.
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pre Madonna
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It should be 'Ro.' Keane to avoid confusion.
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t_rAndy
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Starting watching Ireland about 93. This would be it for me
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Double Maxim
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Like that line though find it difficult not to have Liam Brady in the team.
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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Shedite
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Drumcondra 69er
Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7123 |
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Was there a serious suggestion to have Glen Whelan in instead? Saw him mentioned once as a joke with Townsend actually being the selection. Ronnie gpt injured at the tail end of the 89/90 season and was very injury prone for Ireland during and post Italia '90. Wasn't fit in 94 eiither but still made the squad and got a run against Norway. He was an exceptional player at his peak and is underrated. Suffered due to the fact that he wasn't fit for either World Cup, would be rated higher had he been fit and picked. His career after 1990 wasa very stop/start till he retired.
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deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
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Irwin McGrath Dunne Stan Houghton Royston R.Whelan Sheedy Quinn Rob Keane Just on Irwin, I don't have the exact stats on how many times he played LB for Ireland, but he mostly played on the right. He was a right footed right back at Leeds & Oldham, who Ferguson coverted to LB at Man U. He did play for us at LB a few times, like when Sheedy was injured and Staunton was pushed to LW, but I'd say less than 10 of his caps were playing left back. I really only saw the end of Mark Lawrenson's and Liam Brady's careers, both great players and all time Ireland XI candidates who would be in that team (ahead of Dunne & Ronnie) if my memory was better ! Other candidates, maybe an odd one, but Kenny Cunningham rarely made an error playing for us, yet would rarely feature in any 'greatest Irish CB's' conversation. I do think people would have viewed that differently had he kept his fitness before 2002 and been able to stay 1st choice, as he was pre injury, for the 2002 WC ahead of one of Breen or Stan (who is in my team at LB, but was never a convincing CB in my view) Moran is an obvious one, tough as nails defender who rarely had a bad game, put his head anywhere. O'Shea, nah. He really only played well for us after Trap took over and eventually moved him to CB when St Ledger had the first of his many injuries in his 2nd campaign. He was rock solid after that, but his early years, and probably about 50/60 caps, he nearly attracted as much criticism as Whelan & Hendrick do these days, some of it justified. |
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Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.....
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RKeane
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First game I can remember watching was Saudi Arabia 2002 & first game I was at was the friendly against Australia in 2003. So will go from 02 - Present
My team would be.. Given Coleman Dunne O’Shea Kilbane Keane McCarthy Wes Duff Keane Long Serious lack of options in midfield as nobody after Roy has stood out in the centre for us so went with who is the best player on form out of Whelan, Andrews & McCarthy. Long not the most naturally gifted but the effect his workrate over the past decade has had on the team cannot be underestimated and of course that goal v Germany. Randolph has never put foot wrong for us either, deserves a shout.
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YESSSS! IT'S THERE
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Fair points,I just always feel he was slightly better on the left. The problem with Kenny Cunningham is if you play him you have to play his eyebrows.
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16468 |
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Why was it that Irwin has so few caps?
Was it just our lack of games during his time?(not qualifying for 3 tournaments during his time in the squad 92,06, 98) Was it injuries? Was it Ferguson just being a prick and pulling him from squads? Did Charlton and Mick just prefer someone else at right/left back over him?
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Shedite
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Looks like a lot of the games he was dropped were due to his pace, most famously when Phelan played against Netherlands in 94 to mark Overmars. Also interesting in that list, he only played 4 of 16 friendlies in his time.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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He was still playing in the second division in 1990, moving to Old Trafford that summer and making his debut that season and he was 24 at that point.
I don't think he was every Charlton's type of player, there was some rumour, I think, of a disagreement, but most of his caps came over those two campaigns where he was first choice. I think by the time Mick came in Fergie was able to tell national managers where to go, see Giggs and Keane, and Mick was bringing through the youth. He was still involved though. His free-kick against Belgium stands out in my mind as being the most 'un-Irish' goal of that decade!
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Het-field
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Also, it could be argued that Irwin finished his international career somewhat prematurely. Players like Niall Quinn were not significantly older, yet still played on until 2002. Irwin left Manchester United that year, and could have attended the 2002 WC, albeit at 36 years old. The likes of Cascarino, Houghton, McGrath and Aldo all made their final appearances in squads and in games on the other side of 35. You either start your international career early, or extend it. But even at that, Irwin would probably still have fallen short of being a 100 cap winner.
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16468 |
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So it's kind of mixture of a few of the above so
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McG
Moderator Group SISAO? What the hell is SISAO? Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 26995 |
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Not sure if Dinny was included in this but didnt Mick tell some of the senior players like McGrath to prove themselves for inclusion? The folly of a youthful manager in his first real gig. |
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