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BigStrongMan
Robbie Keane Just Modding Like Joined: 22 May 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 107633 |
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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The Swedes have lost their marbles big time. Official figures there say just 7% of Stockholm's population have developed antibodies. That's in Stockholm, which is the epicentre of their outbreak. Compare that to Spain where the Spaniards found 11% of Madrid's population had developed antibodies. I've been saying for yonks that this natural herd immunity drive is a crock and the figures completely bear that out. The Swedes have just thrown thousands of people under the bus for no gain whatsoever. Their strategy should be called out for what it is - a total failure. |
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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17% of Londoners have it. And that's with a lockdown.
7% of 970,000 is alot better than 17% of 8.9 million. A bigger sample size is always going to give a larger % but the math suggests herd immunity was the correct approach, they did gain something from this, they've kept their economy going unlike every other country in the world. Edited by coyne - 21 May 2020 at 10:45pm |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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As much chance there as anywhere else. The deflection today in the gutter press was exceptional, even by their own low standards. Instead of any mention of the Arcuri, ahem, affair, we were treated to headlines that Steve Coogan's production company had the temerity to take advantage of the government's furlough scheme. Obviously this earth shattering news, that has presumably been known for weeks and is hardly news, needed to be told today! How dare a horrible lefty luvvie use a government's scheme for exactly the reason it was set-up!
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Pipkin
Liam Brady Joined: 07 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1975 |
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What were the deaths as a percentage of the population in Stockholm and Madrid. Those figures on their own mean sweet f**k all And as Coyne has said; the non Covid impact will be much lesser. You can say for yonks and forever more but you’ll still be wrong
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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I don't think you get it. Sweden went for herd immunity. They wanted a large percentage of their population to get the virus so that they would "get through this" quicker. But only a tiny percentage of the population has got the virus. If it's 7% in Stockholm, the national precentage is likely down around 2-3%. But yet through that policy, they've ended up with a death rate of 384 per million - compared to Denmark's 97 per million, Finland's 55 and Norway's 43. So they've merely skyrocketed their death rate when they didn't have to, and they've made basically no progress towards the crock o' gold at the end of the rainbow which is herd immunity. A double failure.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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You can scream failure til the fat lady sings but Sweden aren't facing a recession worse than WWI and WW2 combined, and I'd imagine general quality of life is alot better there too!
Jag ska tuttar runka will be the first words I'll be saying if I ever stepped foot in Sweden.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Sweden is facing a massive recession the same as every other country is.
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Jackal
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The virus is going to push Argentina over the edge and they're going to have to default on their debts. The place will be chaotic.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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The Argies have escaped it!
They hard locked down over a month ago before it even hit and any of their cases they do find are all in Buenos Aires so it's all contained. Their Latin American friends however, are in deep trouble. Like, worse than Western Europe trouble. |
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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There are a few pubs in South London opened for takeaway and selling pints in plastic cups near the parks. Wandsworth common was like a festival yesterday. With the good weather over a bank holiday there is no chance of people staying in.
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15257 |
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I am not sure those figures are strictly comparable given the reliability of the numbers recorded and how they are recorded however excess deaths to the norm are readily comparable and the UK (who have made a mess of it) now is probably pushing 65K in excess of normal figures - 65K in a population of 65m Ireland it was reported as still having the average number of deaths in the period from the beginning of this . I wonder how the other countries compare on straight excess death figures
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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Devrozex
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7676 |
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And by the looks of it will be no less susceptible to a second wave than every other country. It's definitely looking like their chosen path was a whole lot more to do with their constitution not allowing the imposition of a state of emergency (and therefore the ability to actually impose a lockdown even if they wanted to) during peacetime than any real scientific basis.
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gufct
Jack Charlton Trapattoni could manage me any day! Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6518 |
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the telegraph have it in for Boris reporting this morning that govt. reporting nasal and throat swabs as 2 separate tests which totally f**ks up their figures .
Uk, USA, Brazil and Russia are total basket cases .
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One City,One County,One Club GUFC will be back.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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It’s pretty common knowledge already that thanks to Piers The Redeemer as linked in the video a few pages back.
Basically what they’ve done is tested 60,000 people, but then tested 40,000 of them twice to say they’ve done 100,000
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Artie Ziff
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3 out of the four could all be out of power due to their mishandling of it all. Even Putin is under pressure |
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Jet2 are restarting international flights from 1st July.
Now it’s upto the countries whether to impose the mandatory 14 day quarantine or not. |
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7177 |
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I hope to God he named it Peartree Productions
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