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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10009 |
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colemanY2K
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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They should highlight the risk but let the people decide if they want the vaccine or not. If you are under 60, you are 80 times more likely to die from Covid than the blood cloth from the vaccines. The anti-vaccine people will always be haters. If you are overweight, a smoker or take the birth control Pill you have a much higher chance of developing blood cloths. |
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Online Points: 15256 |
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on the face of it extending the period between doses like the Uk has done enabling more people to get a first dose looks like a better option
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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zizu Kilbane
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Literally millions of people have already died from Covid. Millions more will also die unless they get vaccinated. 7,900 is nothing in that context
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Baldrick
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The threshold for vaccines and medication is a lot higher than does it kill less people than the disease it is trying to fight against. That is not how it works and has never worked. What is happening is due to the pandemic people are now suddenly interested and commenting on stuff that normally happens all the time over years and are understandably impatient and wanting the proper and normal procedures changed. Theses procedures are there to one protect people from dying due to medication and also for confidence and litigation reasons.
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t_rAndy
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So this does mean summer is cancelled?
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
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Planet Earth has never stuck a vaccine into 800M+ people with less than 6 months of trials. Proper and normal procedures are not been followed and time simply doesn’t allow it. People can decide if they smoke , drink , drive etc They should be able to decide if they want the vaccines knowing the risk IMO.
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Claret Murph
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Baldrick
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Those giving out should remember that it’s the authorities in the US as well as Johnson and Johnson themselves that have paused that vaccine and that many countries have similar age restrictions for the AZ vaccine. All of these medical experts from all over the world know far more than I do that’s for sure. Reading many social media posts by recent amateur experts is laughable.
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Cabra Hoop
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Edited by Cabra Hoop - 14 Apr 2021 at 9:03am |
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Baldrick
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Of course sure didn’t I say that they know far more than I do. I am not going against the medical experts though and coming up with my own half baked solutions and theories. I would
Think the onus is on those going against the experts to show their credentials and prove how they are correct. That is a crucial difference. I do not proclaim to be an expert and I am far from It but I do trust the medical experts rather than journalists and other commentators on Twitter and social media who become self proclaimed experts over night and castigate those that have worked in the field for years. Others who are frustrated and impatient then agree with them as it sounds great.
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Claret Murph
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So you are an expert then
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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A few weeks ago you were saying the British medical association were wrong to give the vaccines 12 weeks apart. Do you not think one of the oldest and most distinguished medical professionals in the world maybe know more than you and should be trusted to make this decision? Only time will tell which approach was best but quick decisions were and still are needed as people are dying every day.
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Cabra Hoop
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Like yourself I'm no expert and never claimed to be. Anything I have said on this subject is based on data provided by more informed people than me. I said the chances of dying from a clot from AZ are 1 in a million and that we are set to get 800k doses in Q2. So there is an 80% chance that 1 person would die from an AZ vaccine induced blood clot. I do not think the risk merits limiting the AZ to a specific cohort. Obviously other people defer to those who think it is too big a risk to take. So be it.
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Im The Gaffer
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Guardian article about how experts in London got to the bottom of this blood clot thing and how there is hope as regards treatment of it:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/13/how-uk-doctor-marie-scully-blood-clotting-link-astrazeneca-covid-jab-university-college-london-hospital
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darmack
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Don't know about a waiver, but my aunt had to sign a consent form when getting AZ. And I'm sure it's so people can't do exactly that.
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The dark side.. And the light
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sausy
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Large bottles of cider and picnic benches won't see come together until 2022!
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