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Shedite
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The Prime Time Housing week as a whole has been decent. Few interesting takes from last night... - In 1990, 100 people fit in 25 homes. These days it's closer to 40 homes. In that time the population has gone from 3.5m to 5m. More people to house and less people per house has resulted in home many more houses we needed (I'm paraphrasing the figures but that was the general jist) - A lot of people knock the approach of "build homes anywhere" with an attitude of "who'd want to live there". The one place that gets mentioned a lot is Leitrim, where we built 100,000 homes in the boom. It's the only country in Ireland that prices are still the same as 2000. They used that as proof that supply dampens the rises. - On the "building in the middle of nowhere", people nowadays have an idea that being asked to live in an estate next to a field is bananas, but a lot of locations were like that in the 80's. Housing went up around them and they became what we know today as suburbs. The rental prices is the one thing that came across as nuts all week - how anyone can save for a mortgage when they're paying ore than that mortgage on rent is beyond me
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Het-field
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The political will is interesting. In truth, like many things politically, it is a complicated issue, which encompasses central government, local government, planning authorities, and individuals. Self interest guides the debate, and as a result the vast majority of politicians etc look like hypocrites, or at least inconsistent.
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The Huntacha
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As in, there isn't any.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Het-field
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I suppose, yeah. The Government are bogged down for a number of reasons, and the opposition want the perfect (ideologically) to be the enemy of the good
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Shedite
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Trigboy 10
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The whole Golfgate debacle getting dismissed really has the look of the judge looking after the boys.
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Het-field
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If anything, the trial should reassure people that even those in power are not immune. The Courts and the investigative process was carried out in full. Plenty of other issues around COVID and politicians behaviour which never got that far.
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Trigboy 10
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Het-field
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The point is by virtue of the trial they had to account for their actions, while other attendees paid the price at the political level. In fact, no issue surrounding COVID has had more due process and accountability than this one.
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Trigboy 10
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Het-field
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First, the case took place over several days with extensive arguments made. And this was at District Court level, where cases will often be dealt with in very short periods of time that don’t amount to days. Second, the specifics of the case are important to look at particularly the charges brought, which on a factual basis were not proven.
That doesn’t mean we don’t get to criticise the event, or the holding of it at the time, or that it was incredibly dismissive, considering what the general public were going through. Edited by Het-field - 05 Feb 2022 at 1:27pm |
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t_rAndy
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Building new communities 'in the middle of nowhere' but that is built with a style and amenities geared towards young professionals who are able to work from home, I think that would be very appealing for many couples and professionals. Lots of young people just starting out want to move to a new housing estate where there will be majority other young people starting out too. It costs too much money to build and then for the people to afford this type of property in Dublin or even the surrounds. Build it in Leitrim or whatever. We have Hong Kong businessmen trying to find land here to move over 50,000 Hong Kong elite in and create their own city. We should have a national strategy to create a couple of more cities in the middle of the country
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Trigboy 10
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It’s the judges job to give a verdict but surely it isn’t her job to comment on what happened in people’s careers afterwards.
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Het-field
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Unnecessary comment maybe, but not in any way indicative of anything other than acknowledging an outcome.
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Southstandman
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For what died the sons of Roisin.
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We are Shamrock Rovers we"re Irelands number 1 .
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Het-field
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There is a wing of Irish politics at the moment that seems incapable of understanding that the current conflict is between Russia and Ukraine. Every comment needs to be counterbalanced with some reference to NATO, who are not actively involved in the conflict at all. They seem frustrated with the “one sided view”, when in fact supporting Ukraine and decrying Russia is a position generally shared.
Perhaps if they can learn to condemn, without having to refer to other matters, they won’t end up having the same criticisms thrown at them.
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notpropaganda73
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if I remember right Coveney had outlined a plan for a new city as part of his leadership bid against Varadkar. I'm not a FG voter but I remember thinking he was the first politician in a long time that I felt had some sort of vision. I think Varadkar winning that leadership contest was bad for the country in lots of ways. |
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Het-field
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Back in 2006 the PDs had a policy document that looked to move Dublin port and create a high rise “downtown” area around the Poolbeg area. The expectation was to have an American style building with retail units, offices and homes all in one.
From a financial point of view, it was a saving grace it didn’t proceed given the timing. However, it was one of the more broad thinking policies of that era.
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