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cildaratown
Liam Brady killdare town Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 1390 |
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Put in another decent shift today. Seems like he can play LB/RB, and know he played CB in the future. Nice to have some flexibility in the back. Hope he gets a chance to play next year in the PL, really was an integral part of the WBA squad the past few months.
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Dots1982
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Where in Dublin is he from?
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horsebox
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Templeogue I think.
He played GAA for St Judes. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Dots1982
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ok thanks, seems like he wasn’t just any GAA player either unsupri - https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/oshea-star-for-stellar-judes-31251861.html
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Dots1982
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wonder was he related to Niall O’Shea who played for judes and Dublin as a back.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25090 |
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When you think about all the potential players we could've had playing for Ireland on the world stage lost to the gah.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9558 |
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I can't think of many GAA players who were good enough at soccer to play for Ireland. If they were that good at soccer, they'd almost certainly have chosen it for the very obvious reason that playing it can make you filthy rich, whereas GAA will not. Surely O'Shea just confirms that point.
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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Shane Supple gave up a professional football career to play GAA.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9558 |
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He did, but he had originally pursued a career as a professional footballer before deciding it wasn't for him. So it wasn't so much a case of "Ireland losing a player to GAA" as it was a player simply deciding that he didn't enjoy the lifestyle of professional football, and hence giving it up. In other words, it was a more a case of Supple giving up soccer and then deciding to play GAA with his newfound spare time, that it was him choosing GAA specifically over soccer.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2692 |
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Kevin Moran captained Dublin to victory over Armagh in the 1977 all-Ireland final while simultaneously a Man Utd player. Nobody could conceivably get away with that now ( insurance reasons, etc ).
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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There's a huge section of rural Ireland where young lads only play GAA, or play a bit of soccer on the side but it's not taken seriously. Just look at how many counties haven't produced an international footballer in decades. It's not that the kids there are any worse at sport, they just never play soccer at a serious enough level to ever even consider it as a career. We miss out on loads of potential players to GAA, not obvious ones like Supple who played both sports, it's the thousands who never get into the game that we miss out on.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9558 |
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You can't lose what you've never had. Lots of lads from down the country (Long, Doyle, etc) have left promising futures in GAA to pursue a career in football; if they play both sports and they have a chance of making it professionally in soccer, then 99% of them will go that way. It's ridiculous to say something like "oh Irish soccer really missed out on the likes of Joe Canning" if Joe Canning never played soccer in the first place. You might as well say "Irish rugby missed out on Joe Canning/Irish cricket missed out on Joe Canning" etc etc.
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NewtNewbie
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Sure. But he mentioned 'falling out of love with the game' when giving up his football career, and cited, I believe I'm right in saying, wanting to pursue a GAA career with Dublin. Still you're right in suggesting that this is an unusual situation.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9558 |
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I wouldn't dispute that, however what I'm saying is that I don't believe he left soccer specifically for GAA. Like if GAA didn't exist, I still think Supple would have walked away from football. Because as he said himself, his main issue was that he simply did not enjoy the life of a professional footballer.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25090 |
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O'Shea I know you like your gah but you must be insane to think that we haven't lost out on potential Irish international players to the hurling and gaelic football. I'm talking about players that would've chosen football if hurling/gaelic football and to a lesser extent rugby weren't around in the first place.
If Shane Long didn't play hurling until he was 17 or whatever, he may have developed as an even better football player technically. His hurling background may have stood to him in terms of athleticism and physical strength but I do think it could've been a hindrance technically as well. Given the level of participation and dominance of our two main domestic sports we do very well to punch above our weight on the global stage when it comes to rugby,football,boxing and athletics but there's no doubt the gah is a hindrance overall and lessens our pool to pick from in terms of the international football team.
Edited by irishmufc - 26 Jul 2020 at 7:32pm |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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Anyone remember Jason Sherlock's trial with Liverpool and Anthony Tohill's trial with Manchester United in the 90's?
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J89
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Current underage international could have very easily fallen into this category if he never left Limerick to go play with Shamrock Rovers. Once showed up at half time for a cup final because he had GAA training that day too.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25090 |
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Never knew about Sherlock's but I remember Anthony Tohill's. Without resorting to google I think he played in a game against Stoke or something like that round 95. He played in the 'Sheffield Wednesday' style away kit or it was the yellow and green Newton heath one. One of the away kits anyway.
I assume that match was a reserves game of some sort. Think United won 3-2.
Edited by irishmufc - 26 Jul 2020 at 7:46pm |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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