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Will EIRE qualify via the playoffs?

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

A potential final at home would give the players an even bigger incentive to beat Slovakia. 

 
Alternatively, a bigger addition to the ‘ so near and yet so far’ narrative
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Slovakia are at a low ebb, having had a poor campaign and played to a half empty (and small) stadium against Azerbaijan last night when qualification was still theoretically in the balance. They have some decent players - Skriniar is a standout in Serie A, and Hamsik while past his best is still better than what we have. Overall though, i'd fancy us in a game against them. 

Obviously don't look beyond your next game and all that, but over the other side of the draw, Bosnia had an even worse campaign, losing to Greece, Finland, Italy, shipping 4 goals to Armenia and so on. If they come through their semi-final and we were to play them in a final, they're also significantly weaker than Denmark or Switzerland.

The team i'd hope not to face is our Northern brethren. If they were to beat us in any final, we would never, ever hear the end of it. And they could do it. They play out of their skin regularly and play well against better teams than ourselves, and it'd be Michael O'Neills last game. We could do without those narratives.


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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

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I'd be worried that we are not capable of winning two such knockout matches.

Having said that, I don't think Slovakia and the other two sides are particularly strong and capable of beating us either.
But you don't think any team we ever play are strong.

France, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, Germany, NL, England, Italy etc are the strong sides and miles better than us.

Every time we play even second tier teams, the doom and gloom section of the Irish fans have it down as 'mission impossible' and us needing a miracle to beat them.
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We really shouldn’t be fearing anybody at this stage. Either a big name has underperformed, or the team isn’t that good. Honestly, if we can’t beat Slovakia or Bosnia, we shouldn’t be there.
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I think N.I. will beat Bosnia this time. 

Our tie with Slovakia is a 50/50 match up at best. I don't think form will matter too much given how far away the games are. 

If we do play N.I. in the final I think it's vital we're at home as they'd be favourites in Belfast imo. 
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Obviously Fridays draw is big in terms of a home final, but right now I'd fancy the North to qualify. Bosnia were the side to get in these playoffs. as OnTheOneRoad points out above, their form is nothing short of horrible. I would even fancy us to win in normal time against Bosnia if we had drawn them.
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

I'd be worried that we are not capable of winning two such knockout matches.

Having said that, I don't think Slovakia and the other two sides are particularly strong and capable of beating us either.
But you don't think any team we ever play are strong.

France, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, Germany, NL, England, Italy etc are the strong sides and miles better than us.

Every time we play even second tier teams, the doom and gloom section of the Irish fans have it down as 'mission impossible' and us needing a miracle to beat them.
We've beaten Gibraltar twice (1-0 & 2-0) and Georgia once in the past 2 years. We do need a miracle to beat a tier two nation. We're scraping wins against utterly terrible teams now. 
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I hate the whole home advantage nonsense. These are professional players who play in at least twenty different stadia per year. 

Their home, cars, wives and kids are in England. They’re staying in a hotel whether it is in Dublin or Sarajevo. 

They should perform in any country, anywhere. 
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Originally posted by inlikeflynn inlikeflynn wrote:

I hate the whole home advantage nonsense. These are professional players who play in at least twenty different stadia per year. 

Their home, cars, wives and kids are in England. They’re staying in a hotel whether it is in Dublin or Sarajevo. 

They should perform in any country, anywhere. 

True it’s not like they’re playing in some huge intimidating stadium either.

Whenever we play Slovakia it’s in some second rate half full stadium. 
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I think we will do it if our attitude is right and that sits with Mick. 

The keep it tight for 45 mins nonsense and have a go after the hour mark stuff must stop. I would rather we had 60 minutes to score two goals than 20 thanks very much.

We have a decent keeper and good defenders playing regularly in the premiership. The next 4 months will hopefully see McCarthy retain form and interest in playing and see the continued progress of Connolly, Cullen, Molumby, Parrott, OConnor etc

I would hope we try 352 in friendlies. It is a far better fit for the available players and will give stephens and doherty more space not to mention give McGoldrick some much needed support. The concern again would be the lack of a dominant central midfielder but still think its a better bet than 451. 







 


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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:


The team i'd hope not to face is our Northern brethren. If they were to beat us in any final, we would never, ever hear the end of it. And they could do it. They play out of their skin regularly and play well against better teams than ourselves, and it'd be Michael O'Neills last game. We could do without those narratives.

I have a bad feeling about this. 

And they would be playing in Dublin. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:


The team i'd hope not to face is our Northern brethren. If they were to beat us in any final, we would never, ever hear the end of it. And they could do it. They play out of their skin regularly and play well against better teams than ourselves, and it'd be Michael O'Neills last game. We could do without those narratives.

I have a bad feeling about this. 

And they would be playing in Dublin. 

Wouldn’t fancy us against them tbh. 

I’m more looking forward to the kenny regime now than any playoff tbh. 

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Michael O’Neill is gone tho is he? Or is he hanging on for playoffs too? Would be strange to do playoffs and not Tournament and doubt Stoke would want that.

I that the qualifiers were is last games?
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Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

Michael O’Neill is gone tho is he? Or is he hanging on for playoffs too? Would be strange to do playoffs and not Tournament and doubt Stoke would want that.

I that the qualifiers were is last games?

No, he's still the manager in fact and will be if they qualify. His contract only ends when their involvement in Euro 2020 ends.
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

Michael O’Neill is gone tho is he? Or is he hanging on for playoffs too? Would be strange to do playoffs and not Tournament and doubt Stoke would want that.

I that the qualifiers were is last games?

No, he's still the manager in fact and will be if they qualify. His contract only ends when their involvement in Euro 2020 ends.
that plan could change between now and March despite intentions of all involved.
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

Michael O’Neill is gone tho is he? Or is he hanging on for playoffs too? Would be strange to do playoffs and not Tournament and doubt Stoke would want that.

I that the qualifiers were is last games?

No, he's still the manager in fact and will be if they qualify. His contract only ends when their involvement in Euro 2020 ends.

Will he be in charge for friendlies as well?

It’s an admission that nothing is going to change until March at the earliest. Surely he would have been doing something else with his time between now and March if the Stoke job hadn’t been available. 
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