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Gashley Grimes
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Real sickener totally dominated the second half, just that one mistake when Doherty switched off.
One that got away...roll on the play offs. - SOS to the lad from Cork/Kerry who lost his phone in the 85th minute celebrations in the South Stand Upper think steward found it after - |
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Roberto Baggio
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There was a half chance just before the Danish goal when they played a one-two around Duffy and nearly got in. Should have been a warning sign. Overall though we had more chances and looked more threatening than them
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10857 |
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McGoldrick has been good in the campaign except that he is our centre forward yet spends far too much time outside the opponents penalty area at vital times in games. Much more likely to get a goal like he did against the Swiss if he keeps his discipline and stays central.
Last night was a massive miss especially in the first half. They were there for the taking. The narrative before the game was generally around keeping it tight for the hour/70th minute and then try to win late on. The problem with that is the Danes were prepared for and expected this, and raised their game for the only time in the match from about the hour mark to the 80th minute. The winning of the game was in the first half and we didnt go after them then. They were all over the place with 2 of their key players going off. It was palpable. As regards the play-offs, does anyone know if the ticket allocations will be like a normal away fixture ?
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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OnTheOneRoad
Ray Houghton Joined: 06 Nov 2014 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4190 |
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We are like a dog chasing a ball who doesn't know what to do when we catch it. We played well last night. The most disheartening thing about the campaign is that I would accept our position if i felt we had played to our absolute limit. Over the past few years, we have shown glimpses of a level we can find that puts these 'superior teams' on the back foot. We haven't been able to show that consistently due to negativity, conservatism and so many bad habits taught to this team.
On several occasions last night, it was the natural instinct of our wide players to check back rather than take a man on, even in 1v1 situations. When we attacked, we were once again ragged and didn't know what to do. We were probably the better side for large parts of the game but our pressure is ineffective. Stephen Kenny will be the first manager in years upon years who will take control of the team and see potential rather than limitations. The changes begin in the mindset of the team and the standards we must set for ourselves, because that is currently what is holding us back as much as any technical deficiency.
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RogerMilla
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yes when steven kenny is here he'll consume the english with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightening from his arse .
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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Stickittotheman
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I do agree with you but most of the time when a team scores in the last few minutes and need one more to qualify whether it be the Cup or Champions League or Internationals play tends to become frenetic, the crowd usually is boisterous and vocal and things become disjointed and hopeful. We did attempt with Stevens and McGoldrick to create that one chance and we were a baw hair away from McGoldrick being one on one. Overall I was happy with the performance. We passed it well enough. We pressed the game well. We lack quality but no one can ever question those players commitment. They left everything out there. It just wasn't our night in the end. One defeat in qualifying is nothing to be ashamed of either and although we are draw specialists we are still very difficult to beat which means we will always have a chance in the play offs.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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wanderer
Ray Houghton Joined: 19 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 3177 |
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Normal away game as usual
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Stickittotheman
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The thought of Aaron Connolly and Troy Parrot breaking through in the next few years with Kenny at the helm is pretty exciting.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Gashley Grimes
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Bosnia 2-0 2016EC play off. We actually went it for that night and killed them. Please not Wales in play offs - I'm sick of Denmark and Wales... |
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pre Madonna
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I disagree about it becoming frenetic, you can keep the tempo up and not just play hopeful football. I think that is one of the biggest differences between ourselves and teams at the next level. The ability for the unit as a whole to try and use the time well and search for one good opening as opposed to lashing it into the sky and hoping it falls for you. You have far more chance of it being your night if you are a bit more methodical about it. If Denmark needed a goal last night, I would be surprised if they started pumping it at Kjaer for the last five minutes.
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irishmufc
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The stick you're choosing to beat McCarthy with regards to the final third is a legacy issue that could easily be leveled at O'Neill and Trap before him. We've struggled to beat teams like Denmark at home for at least the the 10 years and have always had an issue with scoring goals even against the minnows. Churlish might have been a bit much but I think you're being a bit selective in singling McCarthy out of that tbh. Georgia away was inexcusable and Mick's stubbornness in playing under performing players throughout the campaign has cost us so I'm not defending McCarthy blindly he but it's as much a personnel issue as it is a manager issue as to why we consistently
struggled to score goals and beat decent teams at home. Sadly I don't think we're going to all of a sudden start turning into a goal machine just because Stephen Kenny takes over next year, though I'd expect our goal return to improve. It couldn't get worse. |
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Bham_McDermott
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Thought Maguire changed it when he came on, and for Clark, stood up well to Eriksen on counter in second half and look composed and comfortable out from the back. Got in amongst it there end as well when things got scrappy in the box, was a presence.
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I don't agree with THAT, in the workplace!
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OnTheOneRoad
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What we have lowered ourselves to accepting is really depressing. Despite that we can, even if ragged and poor at the minute, go out and have 52 percent possession and 15 shots to Denmark's 3, we consider it impossible that we can go out and beat teams that are similar or slightly better than us. That is self-fulfilling, because if we don't think we can beat them and that's the mindset the players are in, then we won't beat them.
If you put an accumulator on the Premier League or any other league this weekend, you probably won't win - one or several legs of your bet will let you down as the less fancied team upsets the odds. This happens multiple times in every single league, every single week. The North don't think about what they can't do when they go on the pitch. They never get overawed by their opponents. Doherty was standing there overawed by Brentford's Henrik Dalsgaard last night and gave him the freedom of Lansdowne Road to whip in that cross. When managers start talking about how we dont have great technical players, that they'd 'bite your hand off for a draw', and other language of that nature, that filters down into the dressing room and has the players in a negative frame of mind before any game. We play our best when we have nothing to lose, and yet we don't go all out attack when we play like that. We just play with less of the fear that has been ingrained in us from years of negativity.
Edited by OnTheOneRoad - 19 Nov 2019 at 9:54am |
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Stickittotheman
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Absolutely but with the crowd baying for Danish blood and one goal away from qualifying it is imperative to keep your head. We don't have players who have that kind of composure. We have workers and honesty. We also have physicality. But someone to put their foot on it and try to dictate whilst trying to keep others in that zone we just don't have them. Will Hendrick or Browne do it or McClean? That was what was missing.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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pre Madonna
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Normally, I would agree regarding quality, but this is a mindset. You are one goal away from qualifying and the first response of everyone, management and all, is to start humping it aimlessly at the big defender pushed up. You can be frenetic and use the crowd’s energy without losing all semblance of sanity.
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Greenlad11
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I thought McGoldrick was dropping too deep to receive the ball , when he laid it off we had no options in front and it was leading us to slowing the play down.
Stevens and Doherty were good, Hourihane didn’t seem best pleased to be taken off but he didn’t really do anything, maybe he was thinking how is Hendricks still on the field. Hopefully Wales can win tonight , and we’re 2 draws away from the euros.
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Roberto Baggio
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It was clear from our approach that we were set up to get to half time 0-0 and go at them second half. It was almost as if we didn't want to score too early the way we played first half.
Strange we can play like that at times, ie the back four and keeper all looking good on the ball, and then on other occasions they just lump it into row Z whenever they get it.
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MC Hammered
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Some of the Danes were acting the bollox outside Slatts during their march to the ground. I was stuck in the middle of it as I was waiting to offload tickets to a couple of mates. It was on the brink of kicking off and the Gardai and stewards werent at the races at all. There was a couple of Danes who defo deserved a few slaps although some of the older fellas seemed apologetic. It's rare enough that you would see bottles being thrown and general handbags around Lansdowne road. Whoever threw the garlic cheese fries, its stuck in my mind about what an effective weapon they are. There are very few foodstuffs that I would hate to get hit by more than them.
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