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on a related point it was 8pm before the stadium was actually full last night. Thats unforgivable 
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Originally posted by greenlad greenlad wrote:

I witnessed a nasty bit of stuff last night lads.
Was going down the stairs just after the final whistle, was in 515 and used the nearest stairs to there, heard a bit of shouting and then about 7/8 lads came round the corner behind me punching people randomly, knocked 1 guy to the ground with a dig then 4/5 of these Scrotes layed boots into him, punching people with kids holding their hands as they were leaving to go home. Heard one shout BSC as they ran down the rest of the stairs and just mingled into the crowds at street level.
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Jaysus what scumbags. 
There needs to be more Garda in my opinion. But the only problem with that the food area was already so packed, you would belatedly fit more people in.
I guess the alcohol sales are contributing to this, people are spending the whole half there. Before only people willing to queue for food would hang around


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Originally posted by greenlad greenlad wrote:

I witnessed a nasty bit of stuff last night lads.
Was going down the stairs just after the final whistle, was in 515 and used the nearest stairs to there, heard a bit of shouting and then about 7/8 lads came round the corner behind me punching people randomly, knocked 1 guy to the ground with a dig then 4/5 of these Scrotes layed boots into him, punching people with kids holding their hands as they were leaving to go home. Heard one shout BSC as they ran down the rest of the stairs and just mingled into the crowds at street level.
Why do this on your own... 

I was in 514 but didn't notice anything myself. 

What's BSC? 
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Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

The thing is we basically are in the play-offs by default. We could have lost all qualifiers and all NL games and still been here. I had thought O’Neill actually got us to the play-offs but we were bottom
Of the group so we literally couldn’t avoid a play off.

There is no inherent achievement in getting to the Play Off. Unlike 2015 when we managed to outflank Scotland, this kinda fell into our lap. Also, it was on the back of our abominable performance in the Nations League.
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I witnessed a nasty bit of stuff last night lads.
Was going down the stairs just after the final whistle, was in 515 and used the nearest stairs to there, heard a bit of shouting and then about 7/8 lads came round the corner behind me punching people randomly, knocked 1 guy to the ground with a dig then 4/5 of these Scrotes layed boots into him, punching people with kids holding their hands as they were leaving to go home. Heard one shout BSC as they ran down the rest of the stairs and just mingled into the crowds at street level.
Why do this on your own... 
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The thing is we basically are in the play-offs by default. We could have lost all qualifiers and all NL games and still been here. I had thought O’Neill actually got us to the play-offs but we were bottom
Of the group so we literally couldn’t avoid a play off.
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Just watched the last 20 minutes back. Stevens hammering that ball out of play after Schmeichel dropped it was absolutely criminal, that was the chance.

So disappointed this morning but we didn't deserve it over the campaign. Big ask to come through the play offs. 
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Thought we were better and it would be good to continue with that style of play for play offs. I think we are a couple of players off being very functional and on improved level that we can compete on. I think we already potentially have the players needed. Robinson is an upgrade on McClean, Byrne is potentially an upgrade on Hendrick, Connolly/Parrott could take Browne’s place.
We know Mick will stick to the same players for the playoffs, but after that ahead of the finals or the next campaign under Kenny, I think there is reason to be a bit more optimistic for the future 
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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

What really puzzles is that comment about Mick being the 'safe pair of hands'. The same way as Martin O'Neill supposedly played it safe. That is a paradox, because its ultimately an extremely risky approach. 

We've been told that we need to always keep it tight at the back, and see if we nick one. It rarely happens, it usually ends 1-1 in games against the seeds around us. We back ourselves into corners like last night, like Wales away in the previous campaign by this approach. There are more hands being taken off people than in Saudi Arabia, being 'bitten off for the draw'. Then we find ourselves in the last chance saloon, needing a win that we may or may not get. We didn't last night. And that's the safe approach!

It really puzzles me how going for it in a game can be seen as an unbelievable amount of risk, when not doing so backs us into the corner of a once-off must win game. Maybe we win that game last night more often than we draw it, and we got unlucky. Maybe not. But if we'd played like that in more games we would have stood a far better chance. Anything can go for or against you in a once-off game. Playing consistently well you will get what you deserve more often than not.
 
There needs to be context. Mick being a safe pair of hands was seen as sensible for a few reasons. Under MON things had not just gone stale they had turned toxic. We were completely rudderless and at sea with no gameplans or any semblance of structure. Stephen Kenny would have been taking a massive step up at the time and into a chaotic scene. It was seen as more sensible to go with a man who had done it before, someone pragmatic but organized and give Kenny the Under 21's to build a philosophy before transitioning to the main job. I still think it was the right approach. Don't forget we didn't really know how the play offs would work. We got a play off yes which was always likely but not a foregone conclusion. We needed others to qualify. So there needs to be context here. Now things are a good bit more positive and it certainly is not anywhere near as toxic as it got under MON. We have 2 play offs now. Let's hope we can do it and Kenny will make the step up next year so things are far from finished.
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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

What really puzzles is that comment about Mick being the 'safe pair of hands'. The same way as Martin O'Neill supposedly played it safe. That is a paradox, because its ultimately an extremely risky approach. 

We've been told that we need to always keep it tight at the back, and see if we nick one. It rarely happens, it usually ends 1-1 in games against the seeds around us. We back ourselves into corners like last night, like Wales away in the previous campaign by this approach. There are more hands being taken off people than in Saudi Arabia, being 'bitten off for the draw'. Then we find ourselves in the last chance saloon, needing a win that we may or may not get. We didn't last night. And that's the safe approach!

It really puzzles me how going for it in a game can be seen as an unbelievable amount of risk, when not doing so backs us into the corner of a once-off must win game. Maybe we win that game last night more often than we draw it, and we got unlucky. Maybe not. But if we'd played like that in more games we would have stood a far better chance. Anything can go for or against you in a once-off game. Playing consistently well you will get what you deserve more often than not.

What has disappointed is just how “safe” we have been. We scored seven goals against Gibraltar in 60 minutes in Dublin in 2014. We scored 7 goals over 8 games (including two against Gibraltar) during this group phase. Four goals came almost identically (headed from crosses from wing), one was a deadball, and the other an own goal. You can respect the point and repeat “a wins a win” all you like, but that runs out. We’re very hard to beat, but we struggle to beat teams, and now even minows are treated with a degree of suspicion, to the point that we are scoring single goals against them.

We had two chances to get this over the line and it was in our hands, and we failed to do it.
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Yes playing it safe and trying to nick one is actually the philopsophy of La Masia instilled by the great Johan Cryuff.

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What really puzzles is that comment about Mick being the 'safe pair of hands'. The same way as Martin O'Neill supposedly played it safe. That is a paradox, because its ultimately an extremely risky approach. 

We've been told that we need to always keep it tight at the back, and see if we nick one. It rarely happens, it usually ends 1-1 in games against the seeds around us. We back ourselves into corners like last night, like Wales away in the previous campaign by this approach. There are more hands being taken off people than in Saudi Arabia, being 'bitten off for the draw'. Then we find ourselves in the last chance saloon, needing a win that we may or may not get. We didn't last night. And that's the safe approach!

It really puzzles me how going for it in a game can be seen as an unbelievable amount of risk, when not doing so backs us into the corner of a once-off must win game. Maybe we win that game last night more often than we draw it, and we got unlucky. Maybe not. But if we'd played like that in more games we would have stood a far better chance. Anything can go for or against you in a once-off game. Playing consistently well you will get what you deserve more often than not.


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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

I watched the highlights earlier we didn't really create much chances, I thought some of the goal line scrambles were better than they were at the game last night. 

I'd like to believe that we can play like that again in the play offs but....

At very least we have to play like that again. No point in hoping to take the game to penalties, and we have to win sometime in order to qualify.
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I watched the highlights earlier we didn't really create much chances, I thought some of the goal line scrambles were better than they were at the game last night. 

I'd like to believe that we can play like that again in the play offs but....
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Some of the Danes were acting the bollox outside Slatts during their march to the ground. I was stuck in the middle of it as I was waiting to offload tickets to a couple of mates. 
It was on the brink of kicking off and the Gardai and stewards werent at the races at all. There was a couple of Danes who defo deserved a few slaps although some of the older fellas seemed apologetic. 
It's rare enough that you would see bottles being thrown and general handbags around Lansdowne road. Whoever threw the garlic cheese fries, its stuck in my mind about what an effective weapon they are. There are very few foodstuffs that I would hate to get hit by more than them. 

There was a lot of pricks giving it the 5-1 hand signals. 
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Hourihane whipped in a ball last night that was begging someone to get on the end of, Clark almost did, we have no other midfielders in the team capable of playing such a ball and he does it regular even if he sometimes is weak when on the ball.

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Originally posted by cliffrichard cliffrichard wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Some of the Danes were acting the bollox outside Slatts during their march to the ground. I was stuck in the middle of it as I was waiting to offload tickets to a couple of mates. 
It was on the brink of kicking off and the Gardai and stewards werent at the races at all. There was a couple of Danes who defo deserved a few slaps although some of the older fellas seemed apologetic. 
It's rare enough that you would see bottles being thrown and general handbags around Lansdowne road. Whoever threw the garlic cheese fries, its stuck in my mind about what an effective weapon they are. There are very few foodstuffs that I would hate to get hit by more than them. 


Not really surprised there. We had hassle up in Copenhagen in June from some of their younger fans but the aul lads kept them in line.

Was two Danish fans coked up to their eyeballs in the west stand upper, sitting directly in front of me with their Irish mates.

Acting the absolute bollocks for the entire game and trying to get people riled up. Putting their flags in peoples faces, and just generally having that sh*te sense of Danish ‘humor’ that I’ve experienced over the games against them. 

They were bragging about being Brondby and Copenhagen hooligans which makes no sense as they probably wouldn’t be mates if that was true. 

I’m not sure why their Irish mates thought it was a good idea to have them in the home end? 

We’re very tolerant but I doubt they’d of gotten away with their nonsense if they playing Wales, Scotland, England or the North. 
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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

We started the game with 4 central midfielders and 1 no 10 in D McG, not once did we have a true no 9 on the pitch. Shocking when you realise we had a free shot at qualification.


we play not to lose games. we don't go out with a mindset were going to win this game. basically it has been that way since Trap. we need to change this mindset, hopefully Kenny can do that. when was the last time we went 2-0 up in a game against any decent team.


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