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The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
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I do find that there is a sizeable portion of the Dublin following who get far more joy from others' misery than actually winning. Last year's semi final was absolutely dreadful with the abuse levelled at us in the Cusack.
But for all that we got plenty of commiserations, pats on the back etc after 2016 and 2017. Unfortunately Sid, I think the ridiculous FB and Twitter sh*te actually rubs off on a certain portion in real life. |
That was actually unbelievable last year, I've never seen anything like that. In fairness though Mark, we do have a good few eejits of our own, they might not be as noticeable though because unfortunately we're on the losing side.
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I do find that there is a sizeable portion of the Dublin following who get far more joy from others' misery than actually winning. Last year's semi final was absolutely dreadful with the abuse levelled at us in the Cusack.
But for all that we got plenty of commiserations, pats on the back etc after 2016 and 2017. Unfortunately Sid, I think the ridiculous FB and Twitter sh*te actually rubs off on a certain portion in real life.
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There's plenty in my experience. The majority on both sides are grand and will happily chat to each other but there is large, shouty minority who are dog ignorant and sour the atmosphere.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 4:21pm |
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Fully agree with all of that. Even if Cluxton is as boring as they come (and I have no idea if he is or not) it has no bearing on what winning the All Ireland "means" to him. If it meant as little as what clowns like that try to portray he wouldn't still be making the sacrifices required to play inter county football at the top level at 39 years of age.
I think that the atmosphere at Mayo v Dublin games between both sets of fans (back in the good old days when we used to be able to go to football matches) is absolutely horrible. There is proper animosity there, both sets of fans as bad as each other, and it is entirely driven by social media. |
Its sad. There could often be an edge between fans, but this is a different level. Especially as its been a war for the decade. The games themselves often have that edge to them, and that feeds into the fans. But this has been an unbelievable rivalry, and Mayo have always stood out as being willing to make their presence felt, and are deeply unlucky not to have at least one all Ireland in their pocket, if not too.
Its also not helped by "Club 31" (sorry to use that phrase) members who have rolled in behind Mayo with a passion akin to what they might feel for their own county. But what subsidises their wish to see Mayo win, is their hatred of Dublin. The grudging respect for the 2011 win, which was genuine has given rise to this neo-anti Dublin spirit which encompasses a wide range of claims, and the modern idea that ("I'm pro-GAA" NOT Anti-Dublin). This of course, inflames online wars, and almost normalises animosity, even if those involved will be nowhere near the games, or actually has no real vested interest in the outcome, other than primal feelings, which are not drawn upon personal county lines. |
Is there really that much animosity between Dublin and Mayo supporters though?
I mean in real life, not in these ludicrous Facebook groups
I only experienced any animosity from Mayo supporters once, after the 2016 All-Ireland replay
But I've certainly experienced animosity from Dublin supporters, one eejit on Hill 16 tried to reef me during the second half of the Donegal game in 2014 just because I pointed out that Dublin were being run ragged tactically, which was a statement of the bleedin' obvious
Had loads of great conversations with Mayo people after the other matches since 2006
I presume if you go looking for arseholes you'll find them
I'm not sure there's even as much animosity as there was between Kerry and Tyrone supporters in the 00s, that could get fairly needly, especially in '08
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 1:54pm |
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I've always been amazed at how lazy thinking can be when it comes to inter-county GAA, especially from so-called anorak's or hardcore fans. And social media has just made it significantly worse.
The mark, as it was in the League in 2010 was a relatively good call, as it rewarded the majestic victory of a midfield 50/50 (at a time when an art form was being made of letting an opponent win it, and focus on forcing a free or a turnover (both skills and qualities in and of themselves). The current mark is nonsensical and disruptive. Bin it. The black card too. Simply punish cynicism more harshly. A first offence automatic yellow, second a red. No "benefit of the doubt" first time around, or one lick for free, just a straight yellow for what might be the on and only incident.
Also, I understand why there is no appetite for a B Competition. Hurling is different, insofar there are absolute wastelands around the country, and even at that, in the early days, the secondary competitions got very little interest or respect. Will counties want to put resources behind a subordinate cup when they are out of the AI? I'm dubious they will
And like I said in my post to The Walls, you can now dress being Anti-Dublin GAA up as being Pro-GAA.
It really is time for a change.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 1:39pm |
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Fully agree with all of that. Even if Cluxton is as boring as they come (and I have no idea if he is or not) it has no bearing on what winning the All Ireland "means" to him. If it meant as little as what clowns like that try to portray he wouldn't still be making the sacrifices required to play inter county football at the top level at 39 years of age.
I think that the atmosphere at Mayo v Dublin games between both sets of fans (back in the good old days when we used to be able to go to football matches) is absolutely horrible. There is proper animosity there, both sets of fans as bad as each other, and it is entirely driven by social media. |
Its sad. There could often be an edge between fans, but this is a different level. Especially as its been a war for the decade. The games themselves often have that edge to them, and that feeds into the fans. But this has been an unbelievable rivalry, and Mayo have always stood out as being willing to make their presence felt, and are deeply unlucky not to have at least one all Ireland in their pocket, if not too.
Its also not helped by "Club 31" (sorry to use that phrase) members who have rolled in behind Mayo with a passion akin to what they might feel for their own county. But what subsidises their wish to see Mayo win, is their hatred of Dublin. The grudging respect for the 2011 win, which was genuine has given rise to this neo-anti Dublin spirit which encompasses a wide range of claims, and the modern idea that ("I'm pro-GAA" NOT Anti-Dublin). This of course, inflames online wars, and almost normalises animosity, even if those involved will be nowhere near the games, or actually has no real vested interest in the outcome, other than primal feelings, which are not drawn upon personal county lines.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 12:25pm |
There are several obvious things you can do to negate Dublin's advantages
Take them out of Croke Park for league games and Leinster games - make them play in Parnell Park for the league and at away venues for Leinster games
Even All-Ireland semis involving Dublin could be played in Cork or Thurles - yes there are premium ticket holders to think about but a way around that can be found
Reduce the number of substitutes back to three
Revamp the league structure - a hierarchical Divisions 1 to 4 league structure favours Dublin and the other strong counties because they get regular ultra-competitive, high speed Division 1 football while the others counties get a diet of slower, less competitive football
Bring back the Division 1A, 1B, 2A and 2B format which was used for most of the 2000s - that way the gaps in terms of what standard of league football each team gets is not as wide
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 12:24pm |
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On another note, one of the social media internet tropes that I cannot stand is the photos of Stephen Cluxton, accompanied by captions and comments that he is "bored" or side by side stills with other players in different emotional states as they lift provincial honours etc, with an implicit comment about "what it means".
Cluxton is one of Ireland's greatest ever sportspeople. He has lifted every senior honour at inter-county level (personal and team based), has revolutionised the goalkeeping position on a number of levels, and has led his county to heights undreamt of before. There have been numerous points at which somebody who might be "bored" might have jacked it in. The 2009 defeat to Kerry might have been seen as a good time to jump off, the first All Ireland win in 2011, the Three in a Row win in 2017, the five in a row win in 2019. The list goes on and on.
When he lamped the ball over the bar in 2011 and Dublin lifted their first title in 16 years, he was stoic and measured. Its his nature, and part of that nature has made him as good as he is. Using that as a way of traducing him is pathetic, and is just a proxy at criticising Dublin, and is in truth just bog standard anti-Dublin vitriol. |
I'd agree with your characterisation of Cluxton. Social media is just a cesspit. Look at the non stop abuse and belittlement Mayo get. |
And its totally unjustified. Mayo have kept pace with a very strong Dublin team over the decade, and in fact played them very well on Saturday. Had O'Shea turned Cooper fully in the second half and got through on goal, who knows. The tropes about Mayo will always be lazy, and there will be a nastiness about them, simply for having the "audacity" to be good enough, and confident enough not to make excuses and essentially treat Dublin as "another team". I recall similar comments that used be made about the 2005-2009 Dublin team, and they were no way in the league of the Mayo team of the past decade.
The difficulty with social media is that it is influencing public opinion to a huge extent. And that is why I have been so frustrated at the treatment Cluxton gets from some quarters. Rather than recognising his achievements, its easier to make lazy assumptions about his facial expressions and his speeches. |
Fully agree with all of that. Even if Cluxton is as boring as they come (and I have no idea if he is or not) it has no bearing on what winning the All Ireland "means" to him. If it meant as little as what clowns like that try to portray he wouldn't still be making the sacrifices required to play inter county football at the top level at 39 years of age.
I think that the atmosphere at Mayo v Dublin games between both sets of fans (back in the good old days when we used to be able to go to football matches) is absolutely horrible. There is proper animosity there, both sets of fans as bad as each other, and it is entirely driven by social media.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 12:19pm |
Het-field wrote:
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Het-field wrote:
On another note, one of the social media internet tropes that I cannot stand is the photos of Stephen Cluxton, accompanied by captions and comments that he is "bored" or side by side stills with other players in different emotional states as they lift provincial honours etc, with an implicit comment about "what it means".
Cluxton is one of Ireland's greatest ever sportspeople. He has lifted every senior honour at inter-county level (personal and team based), has revolutionised the goalkeeping position on a number of levels, and has led his county to heights undreamt of before. There have been numerous points at which somebody who might be "bored" might have jacked it in. The 2009 defeat to Kerry might have been seen as a good time to jump off, the first All Ireland win in 2011, the Three in a Row win in 2017, the five in a row win in 2019. The list goes on and on.
When he lamped the ball over the bar in 2011 and Dublin lifted their first title in 16 years, he was stoic and measured. Its his nature, and part of that nature has made him as good as he is. Using that as a way of traducing him is pathetic, and is just a proxy at criticising Dublin, and is in truth just bog standard anti-Dublin vitriol. |
I'd agree with your characterisation of Cluxton. Social media is just a cesspit. Look at the non stop abuse and belittlement Mayo get. |
And its totally unjustified. Mayo have kept pace with a very strong Dublin team over the decade, and in fact played them very well on Saturday. Had O'Shea turned Cooper fully in the second half and got through on goal, who knows. The tropes about Mayo will always be lazy, and there will be a nastiness about them, simply for having the "audacity" to be good enough, and confident enough not to make excuses and essentially treat Dublin as "another team". I recall similar comments that used be made about the 2005-2009 Dublin team, and they were no way in the league of the Mayo team of the past decade.
The difficulty with social media is that it is influencing public opinion to a huge extent. And that is why I have been so frustrated at the treatment Cluxton gets from some quarters. Rather than recognising his achievements, its easier to make lazy assumptions about his facial expressions and his speeches. |
Idiocy on social media will always get more attention than sense
Social media by its nature is suited towards one line idiotic black and white statements
Ewan along with other grifters like Parkinson realised this and that's why they get such traction
The whole thing has become a culture war driven by eejits
Even the rules of the game have become a culture war
The black card was an "easy answer" driven by rhetoric
So was the attacking mark, "ah should we not reward catching, it's very attractive", but it's a dog's dinner of a rule
So is the Token Cup driven by social media rhetoric
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 12:12pm |
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Ah sure take what the Brogans say as gospel. Bernards made a fool of himself the last few weeks on twitter. St Clares has 3 full size grass pitches and a full-size AstroTurf along with a full gym. Garvahey in Tyrone for anyone that’s been there is probably the coldest place in Ireland I’m not even sure how they manage to train there during the winter it’s that bad. You are making points about funding for grassroots players also. That makes no sense either considering the proportion Dublin received per player in 2015. 39k players the funding was €275 per head, Mayo 10k was €22, Donegal 14k was €20. It’s way out of proportion the funding for Dublin |
A full gym, wow
The appropriate metric for grass roots funding is overall population, not players
Deliberately taking the wrong metric is a Ewanism |
Yes a full Gym and four pitches which you fail to mentions because it didn’t suit your narrative that Alan Brogan said the facilities were mediocre which you took as gospel. Ah sure never mind hopefully the GAA throws even more money to Dublin sure they are doing a great job on a tight budget |
A full gym and four pitches are not outstanding facilities
There are full gyms all over the country
You can only play on one pitch at a time
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 12:04pm |
the_walls wrote:
Het-field wrote:
On another note, one of the social media internet tropes that I cannot stand is the photos of Stephen Cluxton, accompanied by captions and comments that he is "bored" or side by side stills with other players in different emotional states as they lift provincial honours etc, with an implicit comment about "what it means".
Cluxton is one of Ireland's greatest ever sportspeople. He has lifted every senior honour at inter-county level (personal and team based), has revolutionised the goalkeeping position on a number of levels, and has led his county to heights undreamt of before. There have been numerous points at which somebody who might be "bored" might have jacked it in. The 2009 defeat to Kerry might have been seen as a good time to jump off, the first All Ireland win in 2011, the Three in a Row win in 2017, the five in a row win in 2019. The list goes on and on.
When he lamped the ball over the bar in 2011 and Dublin lifted their first title in 16 years, he was stoic and measured. Its his nature, and part of that nature has made him as good as he is. Using that as a way of traducing him is pathetic, and is just a proxy at criticising Dublin, and is in truth just bog standard anti-Dublin vitriol. |
I'd agree with your characterisation of Cluxton. Social media is just a cesspit. Look at the non stop abuse and belittlement Mayo get. |
And its totally unjustified. Mayo have kept pace with a very strong Dublin team over the decade, and in fact played them very well on Saturday. Had O'Shea turned Cooper fully in the second half and got through on goal, who knows. The tropes about Mayo will always be lazy, and there will be a nastiness about them, simply for having the "audacity" to be good enough, and confident enough not to make excuses and essentially treat Dublin as "another team". I recall similar comments that used be made about the 2005-2009 Dublin team, and they were no way in the league of the Mayo team of the past decade.
The difficulty with social media is that it is influencing public opinion to a huge extent. And that is why I have been so frustrated at the treatment Cluxton gets from some quarters. Rather than recognising his achievements, its easier to make lazy assumptions about his facial expressions and his speeches.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 11:58am |
Het-field wrote:
On another note, one of the social media internet tropes that I cannot stand is the photos of Stephen Cluxton, accompanied by captions and comments that he is "bored" or side by side stills with other players in different emotional states as they lift provincial honours etc, with an implicit comment about "what it means".
Cluxton is one of Ireland's greatest ever sportspeople. He has lifted every senior honour at inter-county level (personal and team based), has revolutionised the goalkeeping position on a number of levels, and has led his county to heights undreamt of before. There have been numerous points at which somebody who might be "bored" might have jacked it in. The 2009 defeat to Kerry might have been seen as a good time to jump off, the first All Ireland win in 2011, the Three in a Row win in 2017, the five in a row win in 2019. The list goes on and on.
When he lamped the ball over the bar in 2011 and Dublin lifted their first title in 16 years, he was stoic and measured. Its his nature, and part of that nature has made him as good as he is. Using that as a way of traducing him is pathetic, and is just a proxy at criticising Dublin, and is in truth just bog standard anti-Dublin vitriol. |
I'd agree with your characterisation of Cluxton. Social media is just a cesspit. Look at the non stop abuse and belittlement Mayo get.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 11:52am |
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Ah sure take what the Brogans say as gospel. Bernards made a fool of himself the last few weeks on twitter. St Clares has 3 full size grass pitches and a full-size AstroTurf along with a full gym. Garvahey in Tyrone for anyone that’s been there is probably the coldest place in Ireland I’m not even sure how they manage to train there during the winter it’s that bad. You are making points about funding for grassroots players also. That makes no sense either considering the proportion Dublin received per player in 2015. 39k players the funding was €275 per head, Mayo 10k was €22, Donegal 14k was €20. It’s way out of proportion the funding for Dublin |
A full gym, wow
The appropriate metric for grass roots funding is overall population, not players
Deliberately taking the wrong metric is a Ewanism |
Yes a full Gym and four pitches which you fail to mentions because it didn’t suit your narrative that Alan Brogan said the facilities were mediocre which you took as gospel. Ah sure never mind hopefully the GAA throws even more money to Dublin sure they are doing a great job on a tight budget
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Ah sure take what the Brogans say as gospel. Bernards made a fool of himself the last few weeks on twitter. St Clares has 3 full size grass pitches and a full-size AstroTurf along with a full gym. Garvahey in Tyrone for anyone that’s been there is probably the coldest place in Ireland I’m not even sure how they manage to train there during the winter it’s that bad. You are making points about funding for grassroots players also. That makes no sense either considering the proportion Dublin received per player in 2015. 39k players the funding was €275 per head, Mayo 10k was €22, Donegal 14k was €20. It’s way out of proportion the funding for Dublin |
A full gym, wow
The appropriate metric for grass roots funding is overall population, not players
Deliberately taking the wrong metric is a Ewanism
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I'd also be in favour of the weakest counties getting the most funding. Dublin, kerry, mayo, Tyrone should be bottom of the list. If any county needed saving back when Dublin got the special treatment it was Antrim and Derry. Antrim in particular with the islands second biggest city. An absolute disgrace Dublin received about 20 times more when their population is only about half of Dublin's. Pure bias in favour of Dublin. Remember back then Antrim would give Dublin a competitive game in hurling? No chance of that these days.
Could you imagine fifa had a meeting and concluded Man Utd needed saving so gave them 20 times the funding of every other team and home advantage in every big match. |
See the point about funding to Dublin is that there are large areas of the city which are GAA wastelands
Finglas and Tallaght have collapsed over the last 20 years or so and the far flung areas of Grater Blanchardstown aren't much better
Neilstown and Ballyfermot have never been GAA areas, the inner city doesn't have a club anymore
I accept that Belfast and Derry City would appear to be equally in need of such funding
That funding to grass roots in Dublin should stay because the main point of the GAA is that it is a grass roots community organisation
It should be said too that the Dublin team do not train in sumptuous luxury, they train in Innisfails and St. Clare's which are pretty spartan
They do work harder than most other teams, and they work smarter
The point is to give other teams the ability to work smarter too
But some of Dublin's advantages are not fixable
The GAA can't fix the situation where players from other counties have to move county to study or to work while Dublin players don't
That's down to the economic imbalance of Ireland itself
I keep saying though, loads of counties are underperforming terribly
Mayo are not one of those, they never look for excuses, but Meath and Kildare definitely do
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Ah jesus are you seriously saying the facilities in St Clares aren’t great?  I’ve been to a fair share of different centres of excellence in different counties and apart from Abbotstown it’s probably the best I’ve seen. Im not taking away from the Dublin team for one second they are an exceptional group of footballers but Dublin Gaa is at a huge advantage in everyway. I can count off the top of my head 15/20 top class gaa facilities in Dublin be that club, college or gaa owned where the county teams can train. The Dublin funding is so much greater also compared to every other county. Over the last 10 years Dublin got 17 million the closest to that was Cork who got 1.4 million. How does that make sense? There is over 100 paid coaches in Dublin alone who are paid by funding. Up until a few years ago Donegal had 1. 1 single paid coach. So do you think the funding hasn’t helped develop Dublin Gaa? |
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-30950485.html Humble by any shape or means, as former player Alan Brogan insisted last year. “All that’s in St Clare’s is one dressing room, an ice-bath, a kitchen and a whiteboard. It’s not a patch on Tyrone’s facility in Garganey, Kildare’s in Hawkfield, or Kerry’s new €7m development in Currans.” |
Ah sure take what the Brogans say as gospel. Bernards made a fool of himself the last few weeks on twitter. St Clares has 3 full size grass pitches and a full-size AstroTurf along with a full gym. Garvahey in Tyrone for anyone that’s been there is probably the coldest place in Ireland I’m not even sure how they manage to train there during the winter it’s that bad. You are making points about funding for grassroots players also. That makes no sense either considering the proportion Dublin received per player in 2015. 39k players the funding was €275 per head, Mayo 10k was €22, Donegal 14k was €20. It’s way out of proportion the funding for Dublin |
Where does that factor in the time spent in coaching players at schools who aren't attached per club? |
Why? Are Dublin the only county who have players being coached in schools that aren’t in clubs? So you think Dublin should get even more funding? Who is coaching the children in schools? It’s hardly a GDO paid for by the funding? Ah sure up there Dubs, Hill 16 lalala haha go wan Dermo! Them culchies are just mad |
I believe it is. Which would makes funding figures per head based only on club participation irrelevant.
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On another note, one of the social media internet tropes that I cannot stand is the photos of Stephen Cluxton, accompanied by captions and comments that he is "bored" or side by side stills with other players in different emotional states as they lift provincial honours etc, with an implicit comment about "what it means".
Cluxton is one of Ireland's greatest ever sportspeople. He has lifted every senior honour at inter-county level (personal and team based), has revolutionised the goalkeeping position on a number of levels, and has led his county to heights undreamt of before. There have been numerous points at which somebody who might be "bored" might have jacked it in. The 2009 defeat to Kerry might have been seen as a good time to jump off, the first All Ireland win in 2011, the Three in a Row win in 2017, the five in a row win in 2019. The list goes on and on.
When he lamped the ball over the bar in 2011 and Dublin lifted their first title in 16 years, he was stoic and measured. Its his nature, and part of that nature has made him as good as he is. Using that as a way of traducing him is pathetic, and is just a proxy at criticising Dublin, and is in truth just bog standard anti-Dublin vitriol.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 11:36am |
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sid waddell wrote:
Donegalman wrote:
sid waddell wrote:
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I'd also be in favour of the weakest counties getting the most funding. Dublin, kerry, mayo, Tyrone should be bottom of the list. If any county needed saving back when Dublin got the special treatment it was Antrim and Derry. Antrim in particular with the islands second biggest city. An absolute disgrace Dublin received about 20 times more when their population is only about half of Dublin's. Pure bias in favour of Dublin. Remember back then Antrim would give Dublin a competitive game in hurling? No chance of that these days.
Could you imagine fifa had a meeting and concluded Man Utd needed saving so gave them 20 times the funding of every other team and home advantage in every big match. |
See the point about funding to Dublin is that there are large areas of the city which are GAA wastelands
Finglas and Tallaght have collapsed over the last 20 years or so and the far flung areas of Grater Blanchardstown aren't much better
Neilstown and Ballyfermot have never been GAA areas, the inner city doesn't have a club anymore
I accept that Belfast and Derry City would appear to be equally in need of such funding
That funding to grass roots in Dublin should stay because the main point of the GAA is that it is a grass roots community organisation
It should be said too that the Dublin team do not train in sumptuous luxury, they train in Innisfails and St. Clare's which are pretty spartan
They do work harder than most other teams, and they work smarter
The point is to give other teams the ability to work smarter too
But some of Dublin's advantages are not fixable
The GAA can't fix the situation where players from other counties have to move county to study or to work while Dublin players don't
That's down to the economic imbalance of Ireland itself
I keep saying though, loads of counties are underperforming terribly
Mayo are not one of those, they never look for excuses, but Meath and Kildare definitely do
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Ah jesus are you seriously saying the facilities in St Clares aren’t great? I’ve been to a fair share of different centres of excellence in different counties and apart from Abbotstown it’s probably the best I’ve seen. Im not taking away from the Dublin team for one second they are an exceptional group of footballers but Dublin Gaa is at a huge advantage in everyway. I can count off the top of my head 15/20 top class gaa facilities in Dublin be that club, college or gaa owned where the county teams can train. The Dublin funding is so much greater also compared to every other county. Over the last 10 years Dublin got 17 million the closest to that was Cork who got 1.4 million. How does that make sense? There is over 100 paid coaches in Dublin alone who are paid by funding. Up until a few years ago Donegal had 1. 1 single paid coach. So do you think the funding hasn’t helped develop Dublin Gaa? |
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-30950485.html Humble by any shape or means, as former player Alan Brogan insisted last year. “All that’s in St Clare’s is one dressing room, an ice-bath, a kitchen and a whiteboard. It’s not a patch on Tyrone’s facility in Garganey, Kildare’s in Hawkfield, or Kerry’s new €7m development in Currans.” |
Ah sure take what the Brogans say as gospel. Bernards made a fool of himself the last few weeks on twitter. St Clares has 3 full size grass pitches and a full-size AstroTurf along with a full gym. Garvahey in Tyrone for anyone that’s been there is probably the coldest place in Ireland I’m not even sure how they manage to train there during the winter it’s that bad. You are making points about funding for grassroots players also. That makes no sense either considering the proportion Dublin received per player in 2015. 39k players the funding was €275 per head, Mayo 10k was €22, Donegal 14k was €20. It’s way out of proportion the funding for Dublin |
Where does that factor in the time spent in coaching players at schools who aren't attached per club? |
Why? Are Dublin the only county who have players being coached in schools that aren’t in clubs? So you think Dublin should get even more funding? Who is coaching the children in schools? It’s hardly a GDO paid for by the funding? Ah sure up the Dubs, Hill 16 lalala haha go wan Dermo! Them culchies are just mad
Edited by Donegalman - 22 Dec 2020 at 11:37am
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