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Topic: GAA football 2020
Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Subject: GAA football 2020
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 2:05pm
The fix for six starts now

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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 3:08pm
6 and 7 will be won easily. A bit like kilkenny 2007 and 2008. 


Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 3:12pm
The only thing that will stop them is Kerry, oh and if they can’t use a certain dressing room or warm up in a certain part of the pitch or have fans on the hill LOLLOL

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Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

The fix for six starts now

Is this the official slogan? I have heard "Buzzin' for half dozen" too, so want to avoid looking stupid!


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

6 and 7 will be won easily. A bit like kilkenny 2007 and 2008. 

It depends. There will be a transition amongst the panel and soon Gavin will need to look to the future. No real breakout player of note this term, and undoubtedly some of Gilroy’s early stalwarts will hang up their boots.


Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 4:02pm
Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

The fix for six starts now

Is this the official slogan? I have heard "Buzzin' for half dozen" too, so want to avoid looking stupid!
No LOL I much prefer yours

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Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 5:36pm
pricks for 6 also has a good ring to it


Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 5:45pm
No matter what you may call it the bitterness will be 6 fold ay drog

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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

pricks for 6 also has a good ring to it
LOL


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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

6 and 7 will be won easily. A bit like kilkenny 2007 and 2008. 

It depends. There will be a transition amongst the panel and soon Gavin will need to look to the future. No real breakout player of note this term, and undoubtedly some of Gilroy’s early stalwarts will hang up their boots.
Ciaran Archer to light up the championship over the next 2 years along with that new midfielder who will partner Fenton. 


Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

pricks for 6 also has a good ring to it

LOL


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 8:00pm
Docs buzzin for the half dozen


Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

pricks for 6 also has a good ring to it
LOL

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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 9:35pm
Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

pricks for 6 also has a good ring to it
LOL

Maturbate for 8 


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Posted By: eboue16
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 10:33pm
Until mainstream media address the big f**k off elephant in the room then I'm afraid genuine GAA fans will become increasingly disillusioned with the games. It's not an anti Dublin thing. I can't see anybody stopping them in the next couple of years. They are a great team 100%. But they've been handed countless advantages for over a decade now. The gap back to everybody else is wider than ever. They won pulling up on Saturday.

And I'm not anti Dublin per se. If they're being handed all these helping hands why the hell wouldn't they take them.
All most players, counties and fans want is a somewhat level playing field 
. In an 'amateur' sport it would be the least you'd expect. 

It's the boys at the top, yes men on rival County boards, and the GAA big boys that need to be held accountable. Attendances will drop again next year, and that's the only way the GAA can be strong armed.

Let them enjoy their 5 in a row. Tickets will be easier got for them when they go for 6 and the event junkies won't give a toss about the 7th final. 

Unfortunately 


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Posted By: reddladd
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 10:51pm
The way things are going the system is broke. We have an All Black team in an amateur game. The dubs have taken things to a level that counties cant aspire to. Even genuine Gaa people in Dublin can see the way the game is going. A one horse game is not worth watching. Best of luck with the drive for six. 



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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 10:54pm
On the issue of funding most of the analysis on this is rooted in a dislike that the Dubs are dominating rather than any principled or well thought reason against it. It is why we have only heard these arguments when Dublin have started to win All Ireland after All Ireland.

The funding argument needs to be split in two between the money that comes from the GAA that goes in to developing young players in the county. As Dublin has more kids therefore it is obvious it needs more money to coach these kids and attract more kids to the game. To argue against this would be to say that the needs of having a competitiave senior mens all ireland is more important that attracting kids to the game.

Other counties should also have access to this funding and put in systems to attract and coach kids. If that results in Dublin getting a bit less as other counties are coaching kids than nobody will have a problem with that.

The second aspect of funding is sponsorship which means Dublin has a huge advantage with huge sponsorship from AIG and other sponsors. There is a very strong argument for pooling this sponsorship in a way that is spread throughout the counties but it must be done in a way that does not shrink the overall pie of sponsorship coming in. This is not as easy as it seems as will the Dublin players do as much media etc if the money is going to Leitrim or Galway etc. and will AIG give as much if the Dublin players are not promoting them as much as they were.   But I do think it is the one area of funding where the argument for sharing out the resources on a more equitable basis is at its strongest.

In relation to the use of Croke Park I think the Dubs should be exactly like every other team and have to play one of their super 8 games in a neutral venue that is not Croke Park and they shouldn't get the home dressing room as default. These are little things that are largely costmetic but are blown up and used as a stick to beat Dublin with so should be easily resolved.

Lastly the issue of splitting Dublin in two or four on the basis of population.   If you do that you are tearing up the whole structure of the inter county scene and breaking up the county v county system on the basis of demographics and population size etc. If you go down that road its effectively like constituencies for general election and if you have 2 teams in Dublin or 4, well then maybe Leitrim and Sligo should comebine with Roscommon to make a team and Wicklow and Carlow and Derry and Donegal and Monaghan and Cavan and so on. In addition if you do get 4 Dublin teams and all 4 qualify for the semi finals one year, what will do for interest in the rest of the country, so people should be careful what they wish for when it comes to splitting counties.


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Posted By: reddladd
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 11:09pm
Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 

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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 



Totally agree, but the solution to that is not simply cut Dublin into 3 or 4 but its also the almalgation of counties etc.

However i will add look at the work that Monaghan have been doing over the last number of years compared to say Kildare or Meath who have huge populations and Cork also. The performance by other Leinster counties with large populations in the qualifiers has been terrible. Meath finally got their act together this year but were also beaten in all of their super 8 games.

But if population size is the basis for reform then the whole thing needs to be looked at and not just Dublin.


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Posted By: Lenny82
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 11:18pm
I know loads of lads who live and work in Dublin, but play for their home clubs down the sticks.

There is also a much higher proportion of Dublin's population made up of foreign nationals who haven't, or don't, play the sport.

We also have much bigger competition from other sports in Dublin than you do outside of the capital.

If Dublin's success was based purely on population, then our hurlers would be champions too. 


Posted By: Trigboy 10
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 11:59pm
Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

The way things are going the system is broke. We have an All Black team in an amateur game. The dubs have taken things to a level that counties cant aspire to. Even genuine Gaa people in Dublin can see the way the game is going. A one horse game is not worth watching. Best of luck with the drive for six. 

Agree 100% i stopped going after 2011 as the bandwagon started to come on board people who were never there before and didn’t have a clue about it. Totally unfair system now the Gaa made a right mess of it tbh


Posted By: Deane
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 8:13am
If possession football becomes a real problem they may introduce a similar rule to basketball where they have a shoot clock. 24 seconds of having possession before the team must at least have a shot. 

It is very difficult to take the ball of a team that is playing possession football, you are kind of relying on them to make a mistake. 


Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:14am
The amalgamation/division of counties is never gonna happen IMO.

The gap will balance out, it happens to all the great teams. Gavin and Cluxton gone this year? Big boots to fill, they haven't been in a minor final in 7 years, u20s haven't exactly been dominant either. This is a once in a generation team, lets see how they get on next year. Clifford and O'Shea are 20/21

If I was to make any rule change, I'd reduce the number of subs, that would be a help to the weaker counties.


Posted By: Fruice
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 10:05am
The problem for the smaller counties is that the bigger counties population wise will eventually catch up with Dublin in terms of player development Cork are going in the right direction and will be very competitive might take 2 or 3 years for this to start make an impression at adult level but once there they will have a supply of talent year on year like the dubs do currently and you can be sure other counties won’t be be doing like wise.
All this will do is make the gap larger between big and small counties.

And high light the fact that the GAA is not played on a level playing field 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 10:17am
Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

The amalgamation/division of counties is never gonna happen IMO.

The gap will balance out, it happens to all the great teams. Gavin and Cluxton gone this year? Big boots to fill, they haven't been in a minor final in 7 years, u20s haven't exactly been dominant either. This is a once in a generation team, lets see how they get on next year. Clifford and O'Shea are 20/21

If I was to make any rule change, I'd reduce the number of subs, that would be a help to the weaker counties.

People seem to forget that for most of the last decade both codes were dominated by four counties, some finals were total washouts in terms of competitiveness and rather than sounding the death knell, a form of Ludovico technique was employed in the narrative as it was demanded that we watch and “enjoy” this brilliance. 10 years later this same phenomenon is occurring, yet the narrative is one of traducement. Remarkably, in football, the noughties gave us the same number of different winners as we got this decade. And the “also rans” of the noughties such as Dublin and Mayo were hammered on several occasions by the ultimate winners.

Sport is cyclical, and if you look at the detail Dublin have been exceptionally consistent in terms of the players they have used. Gavin has found versatility in many players, and he has introduced 2-3 different styles of football in his 7 years in charge. It’s a golden generation, but age catches up with players. Many of our key players are now in their 30s, and our goalkeeper who is so important to the way Dublin play is 38. As you say, at under-age level there has not been total dominance and only the next decade or so will tell us if football is in crisis, or if like in the last decade, it was dominated by the best, and just in this case, this extraordinary group of players will move on, and it will open up the field.


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 12:10pm
Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.


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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.




Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.



What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:24pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.



What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.
At no time was that a yellow and showed clear bias towards Dublin at a time the GAA were desperate for Dublin to win. If whelan was sent off in the first minute I'm fairly sure Laois or another county would have won Leinster in 05. 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.



What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.
At no time was that a yellow and showed clear bias towards Dublin at a time the GAA were desperate for Dublin to win. If whelan was sent off in the first minute I'm fairly sure Laois or another county would have won Leinster in 05. 

Maybe? Maybe not. Dublin may well have won the Meath game with 14 men.  You can’t say either way. Laois has their chance against Dublin and blew it. And if they were that desperate, why not the All Ireland? Why draw them Kerry and Tyrone 3/5 years between 05-09? There was no desperation.


Posted By: Croftman
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.



What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.
That was never a free in 2011, joke of a decision


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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Croftman Croftman wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Also it’s a myth to think that football was an open comp. that only happened in the 90. 

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.



What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.
That was never a free in 2011, joke of a decision

Yes it was. The pull back on Brogan’s shirt was blatant. You pull the shirt, a free is awarded against you.

Why was it a joke?


Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:05pm
Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.
Come out of that. Kevin MC and Murchan at the weekend blessed with the refs letting them away with it. Was 95 not the match where Redmond refused to leave the field after the sending off and dublin's winner was wide? 


Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 



Totally agree, but the solution to that is not simply cut Dublin into 3 or 4 but its also the almalgation of counties etc.

However i will add look at the work that Monaghan have been doing over the last number of years compared to say Kildare or Meath who have huge populations and Cork also. The performance by other Leinster counties with large populations in the qualifiers has been terrible. Meath finally got their act together this year but were also beaten in all of their super 8 games.

But if population size is the basis for reform then the whole thing needs to be looked at and not just Dublin.

Strange post basing "success" solely at senior level.

Cork won the minor and u20 All Ireland double this year.

Kildare have 3 out of the last 5 Leinster minor titles and won the u20 All Ireland last year.

Meath's minors won Leinster in 2018 to their credit also.

In regard to Meath's super 8 performances/results, in truth making the super 8s was an achievement in itself on top of throwing away a big lead in the league final (one they should have never lost) all in all they had a good year.

Most if not all of the top clubs in Dublin have their own development officer, I think in the whole of Laois there are 5 that have to cover the whole county and that makes a massive difference.


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:45pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.
Come out of that. Kevin MC and Murchan at the weekend blessed with the refs letting them away with it. Was 95 not the match where Redmond refused to leave the field after the sending off and dublin's winner was wide? 

Murchan’s and McManamon’s goals were very different. 9 times out of 10 McManamon’s is awarded.

The Redmond incident was a mess. It was a miscommunication, which was patently obvious at the time.


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 



Totally agree, but the solution to that is not simply cut Dublin into 3 or 4 but its also the almalgation of counties etc.

However i will add look at the work that Monaghan have been doing over the last number of years compared to say Kildare or Meath who have huge populations and Cork also. The performance by other Leinster counties with large populations in the qualifiers has been terrible. Meath finally got their act together this year but were also beaten in all of their super 8 games.

But if population size is the basis for reform then the whole thing needs to be looked at and not just Dublin.

Strange post basing "success" solely at senior level.

Cork won the minor and u20 All Ireland double this year.

Kildare have 3 out of the last 5 Leinster minor titles and won the u20 All Ireland last year.

Meath's minors won Leinster in 2018 to their credit also.

In regard to Meath's super 8 performances/results, in truth making the super 8s was an achievement in itself on top of throwing away a big lead in the league final (one they should have never lost) all in all they had a good year.

Most if not all of the top clubs in Dublin have their own development officer, I think in the whole of Laois there are 5 that have to cover the whole county and that makes a massive difference.

The reason is senior football is the stick to beat Dublin with and is the reason people
Are saying Dublin’s success is ruining gaa. If they were taking
Minor into it their argument would run dry. 


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Posted By: Bo Jackson
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 10:27pm
The step up from both Minor and U-20 standard to Senior Inter-County football is huge. It was never the greatest indicator of future trends in the past and even more so now.


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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 3:34am
Originally posted by Bo Jackson Bo Jackson wrote:

The step up from both Minor and U-20 standard to Senior Inter-County football is huge. It was never the greatest indicator of future trends in the past and even more so now.
Yeah don't Dublin win the majority of u20/21 titles over the last 10 or 15 years? Even this year they made the final and had the top player of the championship. 


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 10:18am
Cavan v Monaghan in the Preliminary Round and Donegal v Tyrone in the quarter finals in the Ulster Championship Shocked

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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Neil Armstrong
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Cavan v Monaghan in the Preliminary Round and Donegal v Tyrone in the quarter finals in the Ulster Championship Shocked

 
Could be worse avoided Donegal/Tyrone, easier side of the draw with Antrim, Fermanagh/Down. Take that.

Two time AI winner Eamonn Burns RIP only 55 ShockedThumbs Down


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Posted By: colmoc
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 9:36pm
Just seen the video from enniskerry. Very very lucky nobody was killed in that🙈


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 10:03pm
Originally posted by colmoc colmoc wrote:

Just seen the video from enniskerry. Very very lucky nobody was killed in that🙈

f**king blessed. Some fall 


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 10:05pm
Shocking. Know one the lads who’s injured. Wish people wouldn’t share that stuff on WhatsApp.

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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 10:06pm
Were they on a lorry?  Looked very unsafe whatever they were on.


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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Were they on a lorry?  Looked very unsafe whatever they were on.

Yeah on the roof of an Artic trailer 


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 10:09pm
Was a terrible idea.  Is there no health and safety legislation to prevent unsafe practice like that occurring?


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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 4:26pm
How exactly is this the 2 tier going to work? Are there still provincinal championships?


Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

How exactly is this the 2 tier going to work? Are there still provincinal championships?

Yes, if you're a division 3/4 team and lose in the provincial championship before the final you go into this, if you make the provincial final you stay in the championship through the qualifiers 


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 5:36pm
Sin Bin being brought in. Instead of a player being replaced after getting a black card they go off for 10 mins and team is down to 14 men

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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 5:41pm
Was the B championship confirmed?


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Was the B championship confirmed?


Yep


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2019 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Sin Bin being brought in. Instead of a player being replaced after getting a black card they go off for 10 mins and team is down to 14 men
It should have been this from the start. Also any deliberate foul that prevents a clear cut goal scoring chance should be black. Anything dangerous however like an ankle tap or lunge with the feet red.

This tier 2 thing is basically the tommy Murphy cup just expanded? Not a very radical change but in the end it won't matter when Dublin will win 80% or more Sams going forward. 


Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2019 at 4:11pm
Bernard Brogan retires from inter county football.

The ACL injury really cost him the full potential offinal two years as in the league in 2018 he was looking so sharp.

A class act on an off the pitch, and at one time he was a consistent 10 points a game player. His FOTY award in 2010 was a testament to how he stood out at that time as he was the talisman, before being joined by other legends.

A fine player with a fine inter county career behind him. Amazing to think for the first time in almost 20 years there will be no Brogan in the Dublin panel.


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 8:37pm
Kilmacud beaten by Thomas Davis in the Dublin semis. Well worth the win played some good football in the 2nd half. Ballyboden in the final next Sunday

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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 8:44pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Kilmacud beaten by Thomas Davis in the Dublin semis. Well worth the win played some good football in the 2nd half. Ballyboden in the final next Sunday
Some story, Crokes were 1/10


Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2019 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Kilmacud beaten by Thomas Davis in the Dublin semis. Well worth the win played some good football in the 2nd half. Ballyboden in the final next Sunday
Some story, Crokes were 1/10

Great stuff. Raging now as I said to myself I wanted to watch it but got side tracked and forgot. 



Posted By: BigStrongMan
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2019 at 7:07am
The  BodenClap

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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 4:54pm
Derrygonnelly beat Trillick in a penalty shoot out in Ulster club championship 


Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Derrygonnelly beat Trillick in a penalty shoot out in Ulster club championship 

Mattie Donnelly off injured at half time big miss. The losing penalty came back off the post. Rock (Tyrone Junior champions) also exited on penalties Saturday night


Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 12:01pm
Clontibret beat Crossmaglen Hun Bastas on Saturday night


Posted By: bogball88
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Clontibret beat Crossmaglen Hun Bastas on Saturday night

Mansy on fire. Was live on bbc ni online


Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:03pm
Clontibret were impressive
 
Kilcoo v them in the final i'd say


Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

The  BodenClap

Delighted for you bsm who have supported small clubs like the boden for years while they were in the doldrums.  Yesterday was for you and Twink 


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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2019 at 9:50pm
Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.


Posted By: ringerbell
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 8:18am
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

Frank mcglynn calling it a day here in Donegal too. Was a massive player for donegal in 2012 on the way to winning the all Ireland


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Posted By: MC Hammered
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

I've never seen someone with an ability to miss the target by the sort of distance that he could when trying to kick points. 


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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

I've never seen someone with an ability to miss the target by the sort of distance that he could when trying to kick points. 
It's a testament to the couching set up Dublin have that he played at the top for so long. A friend of mine told me he was the worst intercounty player to ever play for dublin when he first made the team. The lad worked his bollix off to improve and stay in the squad for so long. Imagine that dedication in a player like Mark Vaughan. 


Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 11:50pm
O'Gara was a completely different option to anything else Dublin had in the full forward line and that's why he stayed in and around the set up for so long.

He was in essence the stereotypical target man/battering ram we have in soccer, where if things aren't working you chuck him in to ruffle up defenders and to be a genuine nuisance or on the other side put him in on a full back who would struggle with his physicality.

In truth he was a very poor footballer, not an ounce of technique in him but genetics and fitness/gym work etc got him an inter county career.

He reminds me of Conor Sammon in many ways! 

All in all though, you can't knock O'Gara's medal haul! 


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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2019 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

O'Gara was a completely different option to anything else Dublin had in the full forward line and that's why he stayed in and around the set up for so long.

He was in essence the stereotypical target man/battering ram we have in soccer, where if things aren't working you chuck him in to ruffle up defenders and to be a genuine nuisance or on the other side put him in on a full back who would struggle with his physicality.

In truth he was a very poor footballer, not an ounce of technique in him but genetics and fitness/gym work etc got him an inter county career.

He reminds me of Conor Sammon in many ways! 

All in all though, you can't knock O'Gara's medal haul! 
I thought you were against puns?


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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 12:50am
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

I've never seen someone with an ability to miss the target by the sort of distance that he could when trying to kick points. 
It's a testament to the couching set up Dublin have that he played at the top for so long. A friend of mine told me he was the worst intercounty player to ever play for dublin when he first made the team. The lad worked his bollix off to improve and stay in the squad for so long. Imagine that dedication in a player like Mark Vaughan. 

A lot of his shots for points were so near yet sofa 


Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 7:26am
Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

O'Gara was a completely different option to anything else Dublin had in the full forward line and that's why he stayed in and around the set up for so long.

He was in essence the stereotypical target man/battering ram we have in soccer, where if things aren't working you chuck him in to ruffle up defenders and to be a genuine nuisance or on the other side put him in on a full back who would struggle with his physicality.

In truth he was a very poor footballer, not an ounce of technique in him but genetics and fitness/gym work etc got him an inter county career.

He reminds me of Conor Sammon in many ways! 

All in all though, you can't knock O'Gara's medal haul! 
I thought you were against puns?
LOLLOL


Posted By: MayoMark
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 8:10am
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

I've never seen someone with an ability to miss the target by the sort of distance that he could when trying to kick points. 
It's a testament to the couching set up Dublin have that he played at the top for so long. A friend of mine told me he was the worst intercounty player to ever play for dublin when he first made the team. The lad worked his bollix off to improve and stay in the squad for so long. Imagine that dedication in a player like Mark Vaughan. 

A lot of his shots for points were so near yet sofa 

He didn't exactly have a suite right foot


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Posted By: oldbilly
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 8:16am
great man to cushion a ball though , good cover too.


Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by ringerbell ringerbell wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Eoghan O’Gara, another highly decorated luminary calls time on his inter county career. Some impact over the years. The goal against Tyrone in 2010 a highlight.

Frank mcglynn calling it a day here in Donegal too. Was a massive player for donegal in 2012 on the way to winning the all Ireland
A real unsung hero in our glory days. A brilliant footballer to watch


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 12:59pm
Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry

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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry
Is this a surprise or has it been rumoured?

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry
Is this a surprise or has it been rumoured?

Surprise  to a certain extent I think. Expectation from most had been if he was going he'd have announced it not long after the final


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry
Is this a surprise or has it been rumoured?

Surprise  to a certain extent I think. Expectation from most had been if he was going he'd have announced it not long after the final
Thanks who do you think will be replacing him?

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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 2:06pm
A total of the game.

A fantastic and revolutionary manager.


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry
Is this a surprise or has it been rumoured?

Surprise  to a certain extent I think. Expectation from most had been if he was going he'd have announced it not long after the final
Thanks who do you think will be replacing him?


Declan Darcy one of his selectors is the favourite at the moment. Paul Clarke will be in the running too I think. He took charge for the O'Byrne Cup games the last few years. He's 7/1 with PP's might be worth a few quid 


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 3:01pm
Who will take over?

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Posted By: Neil Armstrong
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 9:30pm
Dessie Farrell

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 9:41pm
Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Dessie Farrell


He said previously the Senior Job doesn't interest him. Stepped down as Na Fianna gaffer after the Dublin championship. Some talk of Gilroy being in the mix but can't see it as he stepped away from the hurlers for work reasons. 


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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 9:32am
Dessie Farrell and Pat Gilroy the only two in the frame for the Dublin job supposedly 

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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 9:39am
Would be surprised if Paul Clarke is not int he mix also.


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 9:42am
Can't see it being Gilroy. He stepped away from the hurlers due to work commitments. He's very high up with Dalkia IIRC and the job involves a lot of travel to the likes of Africa. Unless things have changed for him on the jobs front

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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Can't see it being Gilroy. He stepped away from the hurlers due to work commitments. He's very high up with Dalkia IIRC and the job involves a lot of travel to the likes of Africa. Unless things have changed for him on the jobs front
So that's why they sponsored the vinnies. Wonder what they were paying. 


Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Can't see it being Gilroy. He stepped away from the hurlers due to work commitments. He's very high up with Dalkia IIRC and the job involves a lot of travel to the likes of Africa. Unless things have changed for him on the jobs front
So that's why they sponsored the vinnies. Wonder what they were paying. 
Yeah he arranged that. They’re sponsored by BOI now. 

Mickey Whelan still managing there, 80 years old. Won a Leinster camogie title the other week 




Posted By: oldbilly
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 1:07pm
saw mickey Whelan a couple of weeks ago in my workplace, you’d not take him for 80, fair play to him I hope I age that well!


Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 4:52pm
Betting Suspended on next Dublin Manager. Tommy Conroy ex Dublin player and former Vincents manager was 50/1 before being backed into 20/1 this morning and then 7/2 before betting was suspended. Mind you it wouldn't be a huge market so probably wouldn't take much to shift the odds

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Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Double Maxim
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 5:38pm
Any Kerry/general GAA fans on here got any thoughts on David Clifford's brother Paudie?

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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2019 at 7:26pm
Dessie Farrell confirmed as new Dublin gaffer 

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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".

Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn


Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2019 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Jim Gavin stepping down as Dublin manager Cry
Is this a surprise or has it been rumoured?

Surprise  to a certain extent I think. Expectation from most had been if he was going he'd have announced it not long after the final
He had planned to stay on, but got offered a promotion with DAA that involves more work, so had to chuck the Dubs job



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