Is this the official slogan? I have heard "Buzzin' for half dozen" too, so want to avoid looking stupid!

It depends. There will be a transition amongst the panel and soon Gavin will need to look to the future. No real breakout player of note this term, and undoubtedly some of Gilroy’s early stalwarts will hang up their boots.

Ciaran Archer to light up the championship over the next 2 years along with that new midfielder who will partner Fenton. 

Maturbate for 8 

And I'm not anti Dublin per se. If they're being handed all these helping hands why the hell wouldn't they take them.

All most players, counties and fans want is a somewhat level playing field 

. In an 'amateur' sport it would be the least you'd expect. 

It's the boys at the top, yes men on rival County boards, and the GAA big boys that need to be held accountable. Attendances will drop again next year, and that's the only way the GAA can be strong armed.

Let them enjoy their 5 in a row. Tickets will be easier got for them when they go for 6 and the event junkies won't give a toss about the 7th final. 

Unfortunately 

There is also a much higher proportion of Dublin's population made up of foreign nationals who haven't, or don't, play the sport.

We also have much bigger competition from other sports in Dublin than you do outside of the capital.

If Dublin's success was based purely on population, then our hurlers would be champions too. 

It is very difficult to take the ball of a team that is playing possession football, you are kind of relying on them to make a mistake. 

The gap will balance out, it happens to all the great teams. Gavin and Cluxton gone this year? Big boots to fill, they haven't been in a minor final in 7 years, u20s haven't exactly been dominant either. This is a once in a generation team, lets see how they get on next year. Clifford and O'Shea are 20/21

If I was to make any rule change, I'd reduce the number of subs, that would be a help to the weaker counties.

All this will do is make the gap larger between big and small counties.

And high light the fact that the GAA is not played on a level playing field 

People seem to forget that for most of the last decade both codes were dominated by four counties, some finals were total washouts in terms of competitiveness and rather than sounding the death knell, a form of Ludovico technique was employed in the narrative as it was demanded that we watch and “enjoy” this brilliance. 10 years later this same phenomenon is occurring, yet the narrative is one of traducement. Remarkably, in football, the noughties gave us the same number of different winners as we got this decade. And the “also rans” of the noughties such as Dublin and Mayo were hammered on several occasions by the ultimate winners.

Sport is cyclical, and if you look at the detail Dublin have been exceptionally consistent in terms of the players they have used. Gavin has found versatility in many players, and he has introduced 2-3 different styles of football in his 7 years in charge. It’s a golden generation, but age catches up with players. Many of our key players are now in their 30s, and our goalkeeper who is so important to the way Dublin play is 38. As you say, at under-age level there has not been total dominance and only the next decade or so will tell us if football is in crisis, or if like in the last decade, it was dominated by the best, and just in this case, this extraordinary group of players will move on, and it will open up the field.

70s was Dublin and Kerry,  the early 80s was Kerry and late 80s was Meath and Cork.

The 1990s was an exceptional time for both sports, and it was festooned with great players and managers. Underestimating Gavin’s influence would be an exceptional mistake. Great managers in the 1990s made the difference along with a countrywide selection of footballing and hurling greats.

Also, this decline in competitiveness at provincial level (particularly Leinster) has been ongoing well before the arrival of Jim Gavin or development funding. Dublin have had Leinster in its hands for almost 15 years, and more often than not, the road to Leinster was relatively straightforward save for a few mentions.

The problem with Dublin is after 04 when westmeath beat them bertie had a big fund allocated to them. The level of professionalism around the team increased and they started winning Leinsters again although not always easily. The GAA openly admitted they needed a strong Dublin and leinster council obviously wanted them in the leinster semi and final to boost the coffers. So it's no surprise Dublin got so many close decisions that helped them win close matches from 05 to 09. By the time 2011 came about the conveyor of underage talent had begun and they've not lost a leinster title since.

It's all well and good saying Dublin should be getting funding to boost numbers but why did they get 16 times that of cork or Antrim when their population isn't even 3 times bigger then them. Not only are you disproportionately boosting GAA in Dublin but football is not gaining popularity as fast as it should be outside Dublin. Soccer is gaining a foothold locally in counties such as meath and Kildare amongst others. 

Not Dublins fault obviously but the GAA made a right balls of a very competitive competition since the 80's. They're very lucky the hurling has gone the other way but would want to be careful they don't do to Dublin/Cork in hurling what they did to the Dubs in football. 

What close decisions though? In reality, there are little or none you can pinpoint. The 14 man win against Kildare in 2009’s final? The double digits win against Wexford in 2008? The 9 point win against Offaly in 2006.

Between 2005-2009 Dublin won most things by sheer sweat, and even then that wasn’t good enough. More often then not, their prize for winning Leinster was a QF against a failed giant, who 3 times went on to win the All Ireland that year. They won nothing easily and there was no noticeable decisions which made all the difference. Also hurling was a heavy recipient of any post 05 funding, and spending on the men’s senior team didn’t dramatically increase as a result, certainly not enough o make a difference, and most of the players playing between 05-09 were there before any funding issue arose.

I just remember from watching on TV. Didn't whelan thump someone at the throw in around 2006 and only got a yellow? I remember watching them beat meath in 2007 and got some big decisions. Meath lad dragged down in the box no penalty, meath goal disallowed and Dublin player picked the ball off the ground. Kildare in 2011 robbed at the end when brogan was given a free. Obviously the refs will be swayed by the home crowd and the knowledge the association which hires them prefers if Dublin win.

What is it with the Brogan free in 2011? He was clearly pulled back as he went for the ball. A simple rush of blood to the head, yes? A foul, yes? Correctly given, yes? McStay’s narrative that day, all wrong. That was a clear and obvious foul. Kildare robbed themselves. In what was their second failure against a 14 man Dublin team over two years.

The Whelan thing was 2005 and a fairly consistent approach. Remember the AI Final in 2009? Also, Dublin won that Meath game by four and had them in their pockets for most of the second half of the replay. And the disallowed goal in the first game was properly called.

At no time was that a yellow and showed clear bias towards Dublin at a time the GAA were desperate for Dublin to win. If whelan was sent off in the first minute I'm fairly sure Laois or another county would have won Leinster in 05. 

Maybe? Maybe not. Dublin may well have won the Meath game with 14 men.  You can’t say either way. Laois has their chance against Dublin and blew it. And if they were that desperate, why not the All Ireland? Why draw them Kerry and Tyrone 3/5 years between 05-09? There was no desperation.

That was never a free in 2011, joke of a decision

Yes it was. The pull back on Brogan’s shirt was blatant. You pull the shirt, a free is awarded against you.

Why was it a joke?

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.

Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.

Come out of that. Kevin MC and Murchan at the weekend blessed with the refs letting them away with it. Was 95 not the match where Redmond refused to leave the field after the sending off and dublin's winner was wide? 

Strange post basing "success" solely at senior level.

Cork won the minor and u20 All Ireland double this year.

Kildare have 3 out of the last 5 Leinster minor titles and won the u20 All Ireland last year.

Meath's minors won Leinster in 2018 to their credit also.

In regard to Meath's super 8 performances/results, in truth making the super 8s was an achievement in itself on top of throwing away a big lead in the league final (one they should have never lost) all in all they had a good year.

Most if not all of the top clubs in Dublin have their own development officer, I think in the whole of Laois there are 5 that have to cover the whole county and that makes a massive difference.

Murchan’s and McManamon’s goals were very different. 9 times out of 10 McManamon’s is awarded.

The Redmond incident was a mess. It was a miscommunication, which was patently obvious at the time.

The reason is senior football is the stick to beat Dublin with and is the reason people

Are saying Dublin’s success is ruining gaa. If they were taking

Minor into it their argument would run dry. 

Yeah don't Dublin win the majority of u20/21 titles over the last 10 or 15 years? Even this year they made the final and had the top player of the championship. 

f**king blessed. Some fall 

Yeah on the roof of an Artic trailer 

Yes, if you're a division 3/4 team and lose in the provincial championship before the final you go into this, if you make the provincial final you stay in the championship through the qualifiers 

Yep

It should have been this from the start. Also any deliberate foul that prevents a clear cut goal scoring chance should be black. Anything dangerous however like an ankle tap or lunge with the feet red.

This tier 2 thing is basically the tommy Murphy cup just expanded? Not a very radical change but in the end it won't matter when Dublin will win 80% or more Sams going forward. 

The ACL injury really cost him the full potential offinal two years as in the league in 2018 he was looking so sharp.

A class act on an off the pitch, and at one time he was a consistent 10 points a game player. His FOTY award in 2010 was a testament to how he stood out at that time as he was the talisman, before being joined by other legends.

A fine player with a fine inter county career behind him. Amazing to think for the first time in almost 20 years there will be no Brogan in the Dublin panel.

Some story, Crokes were 1/10

Great stuff. Raging now as I said to myself I wanted to watch it but got side tracked and forgot. 

Roberto Baggio wrote: Derrygonnelly beat Trillick in a penalty shoot out in Ulster club championship

Mattie Donnelly off injured at half time big miss. The losing penalty came back off the post. Rock (Tyrone Junior champions) also exited on penalties Saturday night

Sham157 wrote: Clontibret beat Crossmaglen Hun Bastas on Saturday night

Mansy on fire. Was live on bbc ni online

 

Kilcoo v them in the final i'd say

Delighted for you bsm who have supported small clubs like the boden for years while they were in the doldrums.  Yesterday was for you and Twink 

Frank mcglynn calling it a day here in Donegal too. Was a massive player for donegal in 2012 on the way to winning the all Ireland

I've never seen someone with an ability to miss the target by the sort of distance that he could when trying to kick points. 

It's a testament to the couching set up Dublin have that he played at the top for so long. A friend of mine told me he was the worst intercounty player to ever play for dublin when he first made the team. The lad worked his bollix off to improve and stay in the squad for so long. Imagine that dedication in a player like Mark Vaughan. 

He was in essence the stereotypical target man/battering ram we have in soccer, where if things aren't working you chuck him in to ruffle up defenders and to be a genuine nuisance or on the other side put him in on a full back who would struggle with his physicality.

In truth he was a very poor footballer, not an ounce of technique in him but genetics and fitness/gym work etc got him an inter county career.

He reminds me of Conor Sammon in many ways! 

All in all though, you can't knock O'Gara's medal haul! 

I thought you were against puns?

A lot of his shots for points were so near yet sofa 

He didn't exactly have a suite right foot

A real unsung hero in our glory days. A brilliant footballer to watch

Surprise  to a certain extent I think. Expectation from most had been if he was going he'd have announced it not long after the final

A fantastic and revolutionary manager.

Declan Darcy one of his selectors is the favourite at the moment. Paul Clarke will be in the running too I think. He took charge for the O'Byrne Cup games the last few years. He's 7/1 with PP's might be worth a few quid 

He said previously the Senior Job doesn't interest him. Stepped down as Na Fianna gaffer after the Dublin championship. Some talk of Gilroy being in the mix but can't see it as he stepped away from the hurlers for work reasons. 

So that's why they sponsored the vinnies. Wonder what they were paying. 

Yeah he arranged that. They’re sponsored by BOI now. 

Mickey Whelan still managing there, 80 years old. Won a Leinster camogie title the other week