Georgia v Ireland - 12 Oct |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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Is it any wonder the majority of our attacking players look bad or under perform in an Ireland shirt?
1. Very rare do our centre midfielders make bursts from midfield to join the attack 2. Our wingers are often if not always isolated or made chase long aimless balls into the channels 3. The gap between midfield and attack is often huge (today prime example) 4. We play with a traditional target man, who nearly always has to drop deep to look for the ball as they're isolated and forced to live off scraps. We take no risks, with the objective of going out not to lose so how the hell can we expect to win games? |
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Fitz
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Location: Oileán Ciarraí Status: Offline Points: 2750 |
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Agree - that’s nonsense, but the critiques of his criticism are pretty on-point.
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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10008 |
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McClean was the worst by a distance.
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Nialler
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1490 |
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I think its nice to have a lefty in there and I dont think its a problem IF YOU ROTATE THEM so Georgia cant match 3's literally all night. I honestly think Hourihane and Hendrick get stick when the problem is and always has been Whelan. When McCarthy plays deep our midfield is able to sort itself out because he tend to like taking the ball from the back, its an automatic thing for him. WHelan literally refuses to do his role. You could argue that that should be part of the rotation too but like we play dinoball. so many obvious things, small details would make a huge improvement. Like what do big strong defenders hate playing against? is it big strong dinoballers and small fast tricky players who will run at them, Georgians were made confortable today by that nonsense of not planning to have the ball it seems.
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mully_85
Davey Langan Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Location: Omagh Status: Offline Points: 797 |
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lot of good posts there... i think its clear that Mick just doesnt have the know how or creativity to get the best out of the players we have available
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wexfordman1
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Location: wexford Status: Offline Points: 320 |
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He must be after falling out with Shane Long would be far better than Collins
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Fitz
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Location: Oileán Ciarraí Status: Offline Points: 2750 |
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It’s all conservative bullsh*t; not willing to take any risks; settling for ‘what we have’, instead of taking a couple of calculated ‘risks’ and trying to get a more positive outcome. Our current boss and the last two apes would draw their ways to win a tournament if they could.
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greenscene
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 09 Oct 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 173 |
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26 times he lost possession today. That's f**king unforgivable. 26 times attacks broke down soley because of McClean. He offers nothing, is utterly predictable and is just nowhere near international standard. He is still dining out on his Welsh and Austria goals, and frankly his performances over the past year should have him lucky to be a squad player, let alone be the undropable starter that he has become. Mick made a big thing of Dohertys performance Against Gibraltar, saying it didn't work with him on the right wing. Why does it not hit home that having McClean starting isn't working. Many of those 26 lost possessions were right in front of Mick. Why can't he see this guys failings? Passion and determination should not determine your starting place
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Fitz
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Location: Oileán Ciarraí Status: Offline Points: 2750 |
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Great post. McClean’s ship has sailed I’m afraid.
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ConorMac77
Ray Houghton Joined: 22 Apr 2015 Location: Newry Status: Offline Points: 3691 |
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Losing the ball 26 times in a match! Ffs, thats brutal, you wouldn't accept that in a park match on a council pitch, never mind a senior international.
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The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!!
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Gabrieléire
Davey Langan Joined: 22 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 758 |
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McClean - spoofer
Hendrick - spoofer Still cannot get over that performance, the subs were an absolutely disgrace. Can’t see us getting anything from the next two games but I hope I am wrong. Would love to see us go for it on Tuesday but can’t see it, think we will be set up to hold tight for 80 mins and try to snatch and grab. Also ifs and buts, but if Egan’s header had of went in it would have been a massively different game. Him and Duffy the only two who can hold their heads up high after the match.
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Farrelk
Phil Babb Joined: 04 Oct 2019 Location: An Mhí Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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I agree - our starting line up and subs need quickly if we are to get out of the group. Would love to see Connolly or even Maguire start Tuesday
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reddladd
Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2008 Location: Virgin Islands Status: Offline Points: 6945 |
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some amount of moaners and doom merchants on here. This is nothing new. If you look back to previous threads after games against Georgia you’ll see the same. We never dominate lesser teams however we could still get a positive result against the Swiss. We can raise our game when the odds are against us. That’s our psyche.
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I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Banjaxed
Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2965 |
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That's our Psyche. Yeah, and...that's...not...good enough. This idea of "sure isn't that the way we've always done it" is at the root of our failings. Kenny won't be bringing free flowing football in his regime, more importantly he'll be dispelling this myth of the Irish player mindset. Good, bad or indifferent, Kenny's regime will send Irish football in a different direction, and the "it's in our DNA" line will be in the dustbin of history, rightly never to be used for an argument again.
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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Every time he gets stick, I think back to the standing ovation he got when he came on as a sub on his debut, I think Robbie Keane got less adulation after his final appearance.... The performance was as expected. Dull, boring, aimless hoofball, no ambition to get any more than a point. Just as in Copenhagen and last month. McCarthy went to Georgia looking for a point, and just as in Copenhagen and Lansdowne last month, he was overjoyed to get it. Those points were widely hailed as great results. This one less so. Nothing has changed since the last man in charge, just a bit more luck going our way. So much so that a win in Geneva will put us through, and he will be hailed as the messiah. I doubt he understands that though. He wants a point there, and no more. It is pre-programmed already. ....as for McClean, he's lucky he isn't booed off these days. But he doesn't have to wait too long for a boo or two at this time of year, as his annual one man stand against poppies on English football shirts resumes soon.
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inlikeflynn
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To be honest, I think that all the poppy nonsense from McClean makes some Irish fans give him an allowance on the pitch for us. “Yes, he mightn’t be great, but he would die for his country”
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Banjaxed
Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2965 |
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There's no thinking about it. His patriotism and dedication to the cause is pretty much the only thing that has kept the entire Irish fan base at bay.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34859 |
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We recognize that McClean is a limited footballer, it's his work ethic that is admirable. It was his never say die attitude and got the ball back and provided the assist for McGoldrick to get a point against the Swiss.
He covers most of the pitch and is defensively better that what we have on the bench too. Apart from that, he hasn't been great at all. Whose there to replace him? O'Dowda doesn't play for his club and Judge is on the bench a lot at L1. McClean will play against the Swiss - no doubt about it. |
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