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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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We're only delaying the inevitable by trudging along with the way things are, I would rather sacrifice this campaign (I don't give us much hope of qualifying anyhow) which would put at least 2 years early into the development plan of overhauling the whole set up than going into a World Cup campaign with a mix of kids who aren't ready and still have the masses of journeymen making squads. Personally, I didn't want Kenny (felt we could have gotten a better manager/coach) on the continent given the wages we throw about but I still feel he has a definite style of play and I'm ok with him being given a chance to at least show us what he can do. |
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Jack Charlton The F The F The FAI Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Location: Abbottstown Status: Offline Points: 9155 |
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Jaysus there is more shoite been spouted today than there was during the game last night
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coyne
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What did I tell you about getting off your phone Doc Take some paracetamol and go again
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 10653 |
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The issue is that while we have a lot of talented youth, it is still just talented youth. Not to go back over old ground, but Declan Rice was a PL regular at 18. Many of the lads we are placing good stock in are of similar age and are yet to break into their respective first team. Josh Cullen (who is a few years older than Rice) for example, is liked by Pellegrini and has done well in the lower leagues, but he has never progressed beyond the bench in the PL. Connell, Kelleher Parrott etc are yet to make a major breakthrough this term. Nathan Collins is a good hope, but he is actually a natural in a position that we are generally covered in. Idah and knight look like they will be important to their club this term, but this is their first. Somebody drew the comparison with Wales and players like Ben Woodburn. Ampadu is an exception, but he has not been exactly revolutionary. Harry Wilson was initially capped at international level on reputation alone, but that was a different time for Welsh football. Also, while the rebuild may not be long term, I’m surprised people don’t see the extent to which the people actually playing are fairly different to what was played in MON’s final year. So there has been Something of a rebuild.
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Devrozex
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One lad liked Tayto. Another chap preferred King.
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Bob Hoskins
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In with a chance of qualification with three games to go, didn't think we'd be in that position. Mick has the team set up defensively like O'Neill with them given a bit of licence to play some football, which happens fleetingly.
It happens fleetingly as we are a very limited team. Take Whelan he has been our best midfielder this campaign, and he's 36. Denmark and Switzerland are reaching the knock outs of the World Cup standard, we are miles away from that. |
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Sorry. You’re right.
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Terzino
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Similar game to Copenhagen. A decent first-half followed by a passive second one with too many aimless long balls, giving easy possession to the Swiss. But once again the players ended the game on the up and got an equaliser.
We need to keep trying to pass the ball when it comes to the second half of games. When we mix a bit of passing with a direct game we are better. We are too easy to play against when we resort to long balls all the time. And leaving Long out was the wrong call. His work-rate alone is too good for him not to be part of the set-up. And I think him and McGoldrick could form a good partnership, if given the chance. Overall, if we could add a bit of quality to the great defensive work, and never say die attitude of the players, we'd be in the driving seat for qualification. As it stands, I think we need someone to do us a favour to get one of the top two spots.
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gufct
Jack Charlton Trapattoni could manage me any day! Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6518 |
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Some people are going to be very disappointed ifStephennKenny doesn’t have us playing like Brazil and qualifying for finals.
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One City,One County,One Club GUFC will be back.
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The beers taps stopped working at halftime up in 519.....there was a serious run on Fanta and Tayto until they got them running again. |
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Stickittotheman
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I understand the point but I don't understand the mentality. We have the spine of a team whilst the rest can be phased out. For instance the back 5 bar Keogh has a few campaigns left. In midfield Robinson has broken through- Hendrick and Hourihane are in their late 20's as is McCarthy if he could stay fit. Sure up front we are very light but McGoldrick has probably been our best player over the course of the campaign so far. Hogan may offer something going forward. The playing style is based on pragmatism at the moment. Hopefully Kenny who showed in Europe with Dundalk he can be pragmatic and punch above the teams weight will operate the same type of way. Whilst also hoping to see better football we still won't play like Barcelona. A 'free hit' of a campaign with absolutely no guarantee that a) it would be successful or b) that it would lead to better results long term I don't understand that.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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t_rAndy
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While watching the game last night I was thinking to myself, maybe it wasn’t just trap or o’neills fault.
I do think we are a bit more positive under Mick but our biggest shortcomings are nothing tactic related, it’s the players. Some of our players struggle to control basic passes. So everything is much more laboured and forceful, rather than slick. You can’t fault the players, they give it their all apart from henderick who I think is too much of a passenger at times. He can be great in bursts, which makes it even more frustrating. I think if we had one top level central midfielder we would be so much better. Not sure who that player could be even looking at the U21. Did like that guy hodge. Imagine we had Rice and Grealish still, think that would be the difference between being a distant 3rd best in the group vs being the best or close enough Edited by t_rAndy - 06 Sep 2019 at 3:40pm |
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horsebox
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Trap - dinosaur.
O'Neill - dinosaur McCarthy - dinosaur Kenny - no dinosaur - Kenny who is going to turn a bunch of potential youngsters (who mostly have never played a senior game of football in their lives (plying their trade for teams outside top divisions)) into this tiki taka, creative and dynamic team who will out play players who have been performing at the top levels of football for years. Edited by horsebox - 06 Sep 2019 at 3:38pm |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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t_rAndy
Robbie Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 26241 |
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True HB. Post-2022 qualifiers if we fail to qualify Kenny - dinosaur -
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 10653 |
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Rice is a DM with total control of the ball, and the ability to pass. His maturity is unparalleled amongst his age group. Grealish would have the ability to unlock other teams and give us that guile needed to create something from very little. If Liam Kelly could perform weekly like he can do, that would also make a difference.
You have a point. I think one of the major problems is the almost total lack of skill. What works for this team is that it has mastered a protective mindset, with a willingness to play bits of football. But inherently, last night showed very little in the way of basic skill.
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