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Strange Liverpool only got one penalty  in the 90 mins, especially that they were behind 
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Strange Liverpool only got one penalty  in the 90 mins, especially that they were behind 

OK, I'll bite.

It was hard to tell after 3 replays whether it was a pen or not, but I support Arsenal myself, we got an offside goal, and a handball minutes before the pen was actually given. 

Decisions were kinder to Arsenal than Liverpool.
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quotes from Tommy Doyle after his debut on Tuesday night 

"At the end, Shane Long spoke to me. He said ' Do you have any Irish in you?' because of my last name, Doyle.

To hear that from someone who has been in the game a massive time, and got a load of international caps - it means something to me!"

Long doing a bit of recruiting 
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Or chatting up, it can be used both ways.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Or chatting up, it can be used both ways.
Would you like a bit more Irish in you ?
As Phil Lynnott used to say to the girls.

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Or chatting up, it can be used both ways.
Would you like a bit more Irish in you ?
As Phil Lynnott used to say to the girls.

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Sky are showing the Oxford v Man City live quarter final on Wednesday December 18.
 
They will also be showing the Aston Villa v Liverpool tie but there is no date for that yet?


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I see Liverpool have been told they have to play the League Cup QF the same week as the World Club Championship in the middle east.

Tuesday 7:45 V Aston Villa
Wednesday 5:30 V TBC in Qatar

Interesting to see how this plays out
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Hah. Jokeshop. How will that play with this rule?

"Each Club shall play its full available strength in and during all Cup Competition matches, unless some satisfactory reason is given. The Board will from time to time issue a policy as to what constitutes 'full available strength'. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Management Committee shall have power to impose such penalties as they shall think fit."

Hmmm. Seriously though, will they play a really weak team in the League Cup or will they play two half strength teams? Hard to know. Also, I wonder will Klopp be at both games, and what happens to the players who stay behind and play the League Cup game, whether they fly out to Qatar or not.

All very messy.
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I will be shocked if it isn't essentially the real reserves plus the under 18s playing against Villa. It was a huge mistake to win that penalty shootout against Arsenal. Klopp badly wanted out of the league cup I presume. The thought of having to play 2 possibly very demanding semi finals as well of the back of a huge Christmas period was something he badly wanted avoid.

They are effectively letting Liverpool throw the game while keeping them in the competition. It's a sh*t show for the league cup but it's a great outcome for Liverpool. I'd be surprised if Klopp is there, but maybe he will stay around to keep the pretence up that this game means anything to Liverpool.
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I think he will stick with the same league cup side (I.e. the youths and people like Kieta, Milner, lallana and origi). Then these senior senior players would travel for the final. It’s probably some sh*t team in the semi anyway and don’t need the full team. 

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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I think he will stick with the same league cup side (I.e. the youths and people like Kieta, Milner, lallana and origi). Then these senior senior players would travel for the final. It’s probably some sh*t team in the semi anyway and don’t need the full team. 


Would genuinely be shocked if any of those senior players are left behind for the league cup. I think the strongest 18-20 players will definitely travel to Qatar and play no part in the league cup game.
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Below is the team that played the last League Cup game, and the United League Game. There's only 6 that will be missing from the last League Cup team. Probably Kelleher who will end up staying home. Maybe Gomez

League Cup Team (V Arsenal) Kelleher, Williams, Gomez, van den Berg, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Keita, Elliott, Brewster, Origi
Subs: Adrian, Jones, Kane, Larouci, Chirivella, Clarkson, Kourmetio

First Team (V Man U): Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Mane, Firmino, Origi.
Subs: Adrian, Gomez, Lovren, Milner, Keita, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain.

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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

I will be shocked if it isn't essentially the real reserves plus the under 18s playing against Villa. It was a huge mistake to win that penalty shootout against Arsenal. Klopp badly wanted out of the league cup I presume. The thought of having to play 2 possibly very demanding semi finals as well of the back of a huge Christmas period was something he badly wanted avoid.

They are effectively letting Liverpool throw the game while keeping them in the competition. It's a sh*t show for the league cup but it's a great outcome for Liverpool. I'd be surprised if Klopp is there, but maybe he will stay around to keep the pretence up that this game means anything to Liverpool.



It's a great opportunity to give fringe, reserve and youth players an opportunity to play senior football.

And it still makes no difference with 2 games in 2 days as he will continue to play fringe, reserve and youth players against Villa with the senior players playing the other game.

So saying Klopp doesn't want to win the game or wanted out is incorrect.
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Klopp had no interest in winning the game last week against Arsenal I believe
 
 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

I will be shocked if it isn't essentially the real reserves plus the under 18s playing against Villa. It was a huge mistake to win that penalty shootout against Arsenal. Klopp badly wanted out of the league cup I presume. The thought of having to play 2 possibly very demanding semi finals as well of the back of a huge Christmas period was something he badly wanted avoid.

They are effectively letting Liverpool throw the game while keeping them in the competition. It's a sh*t show for the league cup but it's a great outcome for Liverpool. I'd be surprised if Klopp is there, but maybe he will stay around to keep the pretence up that this game means anything to Liverpool.



It's a great opportunity to give fringe, reserve and youth players an opportunity to play senior football.

And it still makes no difference with 2 games in 2 days as he will continue to play fringe, reserve and youth players against Villa with the senior players playing the other game.

So saying Klopp doesn't want to win the game or wanted out is incorrect.

Don't disagree that it's a great chance to give fringe and younger players a chance to play. With the World Club Cup this season, the timing of the QF and SF of the league cup are absolutely disastrous. The last thing Klopp wants is to face those 2 semi final games on in January on the back of a ridiculous December schedule with fixtures and travel. He would have been more than happy to go out vs Arsenal I believe.

On the squad selection for the League Cup game, I will be amazed if the likes of Gomez plays the Villa game. Brewster, Jones, Elliot, and lads with even less first team exposure will make up the team. The World Club Cup is the focus then, most definitely not the league cup. Liverpool are effectively being allowed to throw the league cup game and that's what they'll rightly do by playing a kids selection.
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I thought you got fined  for playing weakened sides in cup games

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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

I thought you got fined  for playing weakened sides in cup games

They'd be fining almost every side then though wouldn't they? From top of the PL to bottom of League 2, teams are consistently playing weaker teams in the League Cup.
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