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A bit of perspective lads, Armenia beat Greece.
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Originally posted by The Tribesman The Tribesman wrote:

Is goal difference against the lowest group team irrelevant in deciding final positions where there is a tie?
It has been so in other qualifiers.

Only if you're in a 6 team group. Ours is 5 obviously
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A bit of perspective lads, Armenia beat Greece.

USA beat Thailand 11-0 in the Women's World Cup.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A bit of perspective lads, Armenia beat Greece.
 
Georgia are well capable of beating us in Tiblisi, well capable!
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Playoffs are based on Nations League. We are ranked 23rd in that, but pretty much guaranteed a playoff as League A gets 4 playoff spots and any that aren't taking go to League B and League B gets 4 spots. 

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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A bit of perspective lads, Armenia beat Greece.

USA beat Thailand 11-0 in the Women's World Cup.
It finished 13-0. Even more perspective.
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Originally posted by The Tribesman The Tribesman wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A bit of perspective lads, Armenia beat Greece.
 
Georgia are well capable of beating us in Tiblisi, well capable!

Georgia are already guaranteed a playoff spot so I think this is 1 qualifying group were they don't really give a monkeys either way. 
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More utter thrash we played Gibraltar twice and we could only mange 2 goals ourselves they are 195th in the world.

Georgia scored 3 at the weekend against them what does that say about us?
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2 poor performances against Gib, a good performance against Georgia and a fortunate draw against Denmark. That's the reality, to quote Arthur Seaton, all the rest is propaganda...
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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Playoffs are based on Nations League. We are ranked 23rd in that, but pretty much guaranteed a playoff as League A gets 4 playoff spots and any that aren't taking go to League B and League B gets 4 spots. 
23rd is second last in League 2, are the Nordies last? Quite possible Wales will need a playoff place and they are ahead of us!
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Originally posted by The Tribesman The Tribesman wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Playoffs are based on Nations League. We are ranked 23rd in that, but pretty much guaranteed a playoff as League A gets 4 playoff spots and any that aren't taking go to League B and League B gets 4 spots. 
23rd is second last in League 2, are the Nordies last? Quite possible Wales will need a playoff place and they are ahead of us!

Yes - Nordies are last. 

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Right now Bosnia, Austria, Wales, Slovakia, and Turkey could miss out, although many are close and it will probably qualify. 
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Gary Breen was saying on OTB tonight that there has been a bit of a hysterical overreaction to the Gibraltar result. He says even if we had won 5-0 or 6-0, it would scarcely make a blind bit of difference to the autumn games. He reckons the glass is half full and thinks the team is well capable of improving.
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Teams from these islands are usually at their weakest in June!
Scotland in any world cup being a prime example!
BTW did ye hear the boos last night as the 2020 hosts were named and kids came out with the 12 tiny flags, our most lovely Scottish Cousins got a few standout boos
Gee anyone would think a state of war exists between us and them over The Hibernian Melvinas!Big smile
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Playing poorly has never stopped us going through before. We were having the exact same discussions in 2009, 2011, 2015, and 2017; on all of those occasions we either qualified or made the playoff. The reality is we haven't played consistently good football in over a decade, but more often than not we still do enough to put ourselves in contention.

Indeed, Ireland's 7-0 win over Gibraltar in 2014 was no sort of indication of how we were going to do in any other game in that tournament. Even if we'd won it only 1-0, we probably would still have finished 3rd, gone into the play offs and qualified
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Lads can ye clarify that these playoffs will be a series of semis over 1 leg and then a final over 1 leg and that you can get a side from any other European Nations League Division 1-4?

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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Originally posted by The Tribesman The Tribesman wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Playoffs are based on Nations League. We are ranked 23rd in that, but pretty much guaranteed a playoff as League A gets 4 playoff spots and any that aren't taking go to League B and League B gets 4 spots. 
23rd is second last in League 2, are the Nordies last? Quite possible Wales will need a playoff place and they are ahead of us!

Yes - Nordies are last. 

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16 Sweden47
17 Russia47
18 Austria47
19 Wales46
20 Czech Republic46
21 Slovakia43
22 Turkey43
23 Republic of Ireland42
24 Northern Ireland40

Right now Bosnia, Austria, Wales, Slovakia, and Turkey could miss out, although many are close and it will probably qualify. 
Every side on that list would really fancy their chances against us, except may be the  one that can't  happen- Denmark!SmileAngry
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The opening post doesn't make sense. People (I'll include meself) who thought we were rubbish V Gib last night should look at Austria & Sweden struggling, while we have 10 points, so therefore its all OK ?? 

Surely it is the other way around, putting things into 'perspective' means acknowledging that the Swiss & Danes will also get 6pts V Gib (only they'll both score far more goals), and last night's performance doesn't really bode well for tougher games ahead against those 2. 

And I see somewhere else in the thread that Georgia away has been chalked down as a win again. Just like last time so. And the time Scotland only had to turn up & beat them. Georgia near enough always get at least one good result in Tbilisi and take points from one of the bigger contenders. Maybe this time it will be the Swiss or Danes that fall victim to it, but looking at our last 2 performances there, and our continuing struggle for goals, we're probably the most likely candidates. Perspective. 

No disrespect to Austria or Sweden or Russia or whoever, but I really couldn't give a fcuk how they are getting on, whether struggling or otherwise, and don't see how that is going to affect us one way or another. If we don't qualify, consoling ourselves with the thought that (say) Sweden, a far better team on paper, didn't qualify either, isn't going to make anything better. 
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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

The opening post doesn't make sense. People (I'll include meself) who thought we were rubbish V Gib last night should look at Austria & Sweden struggling, while we have 10 points, so therefore its all OK ?? 

Surely it is the other way around, putting things into 'perspective' means acknowledging that the Swiss & Danes will also get 6pts V Gib (only they'll both score far more goals), and last night's performance doesn't really bode well for tougher games ahead against those 2. 

And I see somewhere else in the thread that Georgia away has been chalked down as a win again. Just like last time so. And the time Scotland only had to turn up & beat them. Georgia near enough always get at least one good result in Tbilisi and take points from one of the bigger contenders. Maybe this time it will be the Swiss or Danes that fall victim to it, but looking at our last 2 performances there, and our continuing struggle for goals, we're probably the most likely candidates. Perspective. 

No disrespect to Austria or Sweden or Russia or whoever, but I really couldn't give a fcuk how they are getting on, whether struggling or otherwise, and don't see how that is going to affect us one way or another. If we don't qualify, consoling ourselves with the thought that (say) Sweden, a far better team on paper, didn't qualify either, isn't going to make anything better. 

I think the point is that the number of smaller / third tier teams playing flowing champagne football though a qualifying tournament is tiny.

Turkey went from beating World Cup winners France 4-0 on Saturday to losing in Iceland tonight. That's football for you. Trying to assess our merits as a football team based on a home qualifier against Gibraltar is a bit of a fools' game.
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