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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by bogball88 bogball88 wrote:

Is Durkan going to get a seat in Dublin for FG?

Nope.

Fitzgerald and Andrews will take 2 of the seats. The other 2 including the 4th Brexit releated seat will go to 2 of Boylan, Cuffe, Daly and White


The latest polls have Fitzgerald at 17%, Boylan at 13%, Andrews at 12%, Cuffe at 11%, Daly at 9%, Durkan at 8% and White at 5%, with the remainder being the likes of PBP, Social Democrats and the assorted nutters like Kelly and Gilroy all polling below 5%.

With transfers from the left leaning candidates eliminated early likely to favour Daly and to a lesser extent Boylan, Cuffe is fighting an uphill battle for fourth spot, never mind third. There is a chance he could defeat Andrews but on polling last week with the Times, Andrews was on 18% and Cuffe on 9%, so it's hard to say. I really don't think White has a strong chance, on those numbers. I'd guess it will be Fitzgerald, Boylan, Andrews (I think he's more likely to poll around 15%) and the fourth seat to Daly/Cuffe.

Incidentally, there will only be one count, based on it being a four member constituency, not two counts. The quota will thus be 20%+1 in Dublin, not 25%+1. There had been some talk that the count could be split in two, due to the extra Brexit seat, but they've decided to go with one count only. I'm not sure the difference it will make but that's the way it's going to be counted.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by bogball88 bogball88 wrote:

Is Durkan going to get a seat in Dublin for FG?

Nope.

Fitzgerald and Andrews will take 2 of the seats. The other 2 including the 4th Brexit releated seat will go to 2 of Boylan, Cuffe, Daly and White


The latest polls have Fitzgerald at 17%, Boylan at 13%, Andrews at 12%, Cuffe at 11%, Daly at 9%, Durkan at 8% and White at 5%, with the remainder being the likes of PBP, Social Democrats and the assorted nutters like Kelly and Gilroy all polling below 5%.

With transfers from the left leaning candidates eliminated early likely to favour Daly and to a lesser extent Boylan, Cuffe is fighting an uphill battle for fourth spot, never mind third. There is a chance he could defeat Andrews but on polling last week with the Times, Andrews was on 18% and Cuffe on 9%, so it's hard to say. I really don't think White has a strong chance, on those numbers. I'd guess it will be Fitzgerald, Boylan, Andrews (I think he's more likely to poll around 15%) and the fourth seat to Daly/Cuffe.

Incidentally, there will only be one count, based on it being a four member constituency, not two counts. The quota will thus be 20%+1 in Dublin, not 25%+1. There had been some talk that the count could be split in two, due to the extra Brexit seat, but they've decided to go with one count only. I'm not sure the difference it will make but that's the way it's going to be counted.

I'm not so sure. Given SF tend not to be hugely transfer friendly I think Andrews might sneak the 2nd seat ahead of her if he's ahead on 1st preferences. 


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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by bogball88 bogball88 wrote:

Is Durkan going to get a seat in Dublin for FG?

Nope.

Fitzgerald and Andrews will take 2 of the seats. The other 2 including the 4th Brexit releated seat will go to 2 of Boylan, Cuffe, Daly and White


The latest polls have Fitzgerald at 17%, Boylan at 13%, Andrews at 12%, Cuffe at 11%, Daly at 9%, Durkan at 8% and White at 5%, with the remainder being the likes of PBP, Social Democrats and the assorted nutters like Kelly and Gilroy all polling below 5%.

With transfers from the left leaning candidates eliminated early likely to favour Daly and to a lesser extent Boylan, Cuffe is fighting an uphill battle for fourth spot, never mind third. There is a chance he could defeat Andrews but on polling last week with the Times, Andrews was on 18% and Cuffe on 9%, so it's hard to say. I really don't think White has a strong chance, on those numbers. I'd guess it will be Fitzgerald, Boylan, Andrews (I think he's more likely to poll around 15%) and the fourth seat to Daly/Cuffe.

Incidentally, there will only be one count, based on it being a four member constituency, not two counts. The quota will thus be 20%+1 in Dublin, not 25%+1. There had been some talk that the count could be split in two, due to the extra Brexit seat, but they've decided to go with one count only. I'm not sure the difference it will make but that's the way it's going to be counted.
 
I expect Greens to be very transfer friendly and that will secure the second seat for Cuffe

I think both Andrews and Boylan will not do well on transfers 

I could foresee a three way battle for the last two seats between Andrews, Boylan and Daly

I will be giving my number 2 vote to Gary Gannon






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I’d agree Cuffe should make the cut. Gannon will poll best of the also rans (ie those currently polling around 5% or lower)
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Gannon was reasonably impressive the other night, as was Alice Mary Higgins.

I still don't think either will get a seat, of course.
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In most constituencies there are seats that are simply not up for grabs. That’s where the transfers at the foot of the results will make all the difference. I hope Cuffe is transfer friendly enough to secure a seat, and my preference is for the other pro-EU parties to pick up the rest. The problem is, the Dublin ballot is full of eurocritic-eurosceptic- europhobic candidates who might well push somebody over the line as such voters might lend their vote in order to ensure a eurosceptic is elected, or indeed people who just aren’t aware their candidate is a eurosceptic. Another and different interesting facet is whether somebody like Alice Mary Higgins could pull off a Nessa Childers style surprise, as a transfer friendly independent. This could equally benefit Claire Daly, who could squeeze the third seat.

NW I think is reasonably easy to call for the first three seats, as McGuinness will probably get her seat back, as will Ming and Carthy. After that it is up to FF to transfer properly amongst each other. Casey’s vote could be interesting, as that side of the country has happily voted for conservative independents before, and FF are just not assured.  although I can’t help but feel Harkin’s Seat is available for a pro-EU moderate, which could give rise to the unlikely situation of FG returning two MEPs, but that is also contingent on transfers.

The South will see Kelly and Ni Riada returned, and FF should take something. Kelly’s transfers down, and the lowest FG candidate’s up could also make it a happy hunting ground for FG here too. Mick Wallace is also in play for this one, and perhaps Labour and Green transfers might help him, along with a swath of transfers which may come from home turf.

I’m not factoring in the “Brexit seats”. In reality, they don’t yet exist.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Gannon was reasonably impressive the other night, as was Alice Mary Higgins.

I still don't think either will get a seat, of course.

Gannon wont. I would like to see if the political force that elected Childers in 2014 could work for Higgins.
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Daly will get the last seat. she will have a massive transfer allocation. She will pull another Joe Higgins and gain a seat for the left Clap
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Video doing the rounds of Casey with a soap box type set up today 

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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Video doing the rounds of Casey with a soap box type set up today 

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That was yesterday

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SNP for me. Hope to see Alyn Smith, Christian Allard and Aileen McLeod elected Thumbs Up

I'd never heard of that Peter Casey chap before so looked him up on wikipedia, seems an interesting sort of right wing lunatic .....
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SNP for me. Hope to see Alyn Smith, Christian Allard and Aileen McLeod elected Thumbs Up

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The SNP winning big would be a good thing. The more unequivocally pro-remain the winners are, the better. The Tories are making a mess, Labour have no position and have failed on Brexit, and the bulk of the fringe are leave.
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

SNP for me. Hope to see Alyn Smith, Christian Allard and Aileen McLeod elected Thumbs Up

I'd never heard of that Peter Casey chap before so looked him up on wikipedia, seems an interesting sort of right wing lunatic .....
He's not in any way interesting
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Ben Gilroy has came from 150/1 into 10/1 with pp to get elected. Does he have a squeak? Gonna back saoirse mchugh in midlands at 4/1
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Gonna back saoirse mchugh in midlands at 4/1
 
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i'll vote green myself here in germany 
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Originally posted by colmoc colmoc wrote:

Ben Gilroy has came from 150/1 into 10/1 with pp to get elected. Does he have a squeak? Gonna back saoirse mchugh in midlands at 4/1

Wouldn't take much to move a market like that I'd have thought
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by colmoc colmoc wrote:

Ben Gilroy has came from 150/1 into 10/1 with pp to get elected. Does he have a squeak? Gonna back saoirse mchugh in midlands at 4/1

Wouldn't take much to move a market like that I'd have thought


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