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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Het-field Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 6:33pm
Small debate re-emerging about e-voting.

16 years on it’s a debate worth revisiting.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

I still can’t figure out what is to be gained? After a good showing in the  Euros would FG think they can win extra seats? The locals weren’t exceptionally kind.


They're probably going to the polls next summer anyway. Might as well go in September/October rather than forking out for 4 by-elections and then having a GE 6/7 months later.


Edited by Denis Irwin - 31 May 2019 at 11:29pm
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I still can’t figure out what is to be gained? After a good showing in the  Euros would FG think they can win extra seats? The locals weren’t exceptionally kind.
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if we just have a GE instead.
We'll have one, Fianna Fail will pick something that they say they can't go along with. 


More likely Leo will go for it more than anything else I reckon. FF be content to hold off until next summer. 
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if we just have a GE instead.
We'll have one, Fianna Fail will pick something that they say they can't go along with. 
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if we just have a GE instead.

Possibly.

However, I’m not sure what difference it would make. I suspect no party has a chance of an overall majority, and the smaller parties apart from the Greens and SDs won’t want one.
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Wouldn't be surprised if we just have a GE instead.
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Four by elections to be held in the next six months.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Full recount in Ireland South. It looked like Ni Riada was about to lose her seat by about 200 votes but the returning officer has ordered a full recount, from the start.

It'll be another four days before this is decided!

f**king hell LOL

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Full recount in Ireland South. It looked like Ni Riada was about to lose her seat by about 300 votes but the returning officer has ordered a full recount, from the start.

Kelly, Kelleher and Wallace should still be safe but there'll be an argument over the fourth / fifth breakdown in the end no matter what, even if Ni Riada misses out, because of the Brexit seat issue.

It'll be another four days before this is decided!


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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Interesting shenanigans for the last seat in Dublin. It looks like there could well be a legal battle over who gets the fourth seat and who gets the third seat. It'll be Daly and Andrews but the order is crucial, given the fact the fourth seat will not be filled for some time (Brexit dependent).

My reading of the legislation (and having spent the last hour discussing it on the twitter machine) is that Boylan's votes should be distributed to Andrews and Daly, as neither is currently deemed elected. I could explain it in detail but it would take too long and I'm not particularly confident that I'm correct.
The votes of the highest unelected candidate are never distributed. 

That's why the question of whether this is a three seater or a four seater constituency is so key - though it beggars belief that there are arguments over it now as the count nears its end - something like this was entirely foreseeable - seat 4 may well turn out to be a dud as the Brits may yet not leave at all. 

In any event, I think controversy will probably be avoided, and Daly will take seat 3. 

She has a deficit of 3,867 to make up on Andrews, off the distribution of Gary Gannon's 29,720 votes.

I think she'll do that. 

Even if Boylan's vote of 46k odd were to then be distributed as would happen in a normal three seater constituency, it would only push Daly much further ahead. 

Andrews could expect to gain a bit from Frances Fitzgerald's surplus of 5790, but he'd only be pissing in the wind at that stage. 

I think either way, Daly has seat 3, and Andrews will be the one playing the game of Waiting for Brexit.
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Even with the apparent overestimation in the polls, the Greens have done remarkably well. FF will also be generally pleased with the local result.
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Interesting shenanigans for the last seat in Dublin. It looks like there could well be a legal battle over who gets the fourth seat and who gets the third seat. It'll be Daly and Andrews but the order is crucial, given the fact the fourth seat will not be filled for some time (Brexit dependent).

My reading of the legislation (and having spent the last hour discussing it on the twitter machine) is that Boylan's votes should be distributed to Andrews and Daly, as neither is currently deemed elected. I could explain it in detail but it would take too long and I'm not particularly confident that I'm correct.
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Peter Casey might get the Brexit seat.

There's  no Brexit seat in Midlands North West.  Only in Dublin and Ireland South
Ah I see.
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Peter Casey might get the Brexit seat.

There's  no Brexit seat in Midlands North West.  Only in Dublin and Ireland South
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Well if that's not a reason to revoke article 50, I don't know what is!
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Peter Casey might get the Brexit seat.
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It is still frightening to think 125,000 people gave Diane Dodds their number one. 
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