Luca Connell

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Connell was given the young player of the season award for Barnsley.

I still feel he'll be a senior international and was totally wasted at Celtic, a graveyard for Irish youngsters

Roca Vatta was playing for them at 17 and is getting a run out these days.

If your good enough you'll get your chance.

Far too simplistic and paying no value to development tiers & strategy. Also the fact that players develop differently. Ignorant statement 

Like Cullen was good enough so West Ham gave him a chance is it  ??
Did Denis Irwin get his chance at Leeds  ?
De Bruyne at Chelsea   ?
Or a thousand other examples 

Muppet

Way too simplistic and Vatas contract still hasn’t been renewed due to expire in 12 months. 

Again call me cynical but I just don’t trust Celtic in terms of player development. Actually screw that factual evidence shows the way they manage their Academy is atrocious. 

My issue with Connell is the lack of effort/plan to develop him to the point he might eventually be ready. 

The proof is in the pudding alright, every young Irish player who has left Celtic in recent years has developed more at their new clubs in a short space of time than they did over multiple seasons with Celtic. Even the worst of the bunch, Afolabi, has made himself a key player for a table topping Bohs side.

Look Afolabi wasn’t likely good enough even with Connell every chance he wasn’t remotely ready. 

It was the lack of effort to develop Connell in particular was the issue. It’s happened with high profile Scottish talents too like Ben Doak. These players and the people around them are not stupid they see this too. 

With Vatas contract not signed yet and still an issue for them again I’m not saying he should leave Celtic myself no opinion on it but it’s telling the contract has been up in the air for many months and I would view his first team minutes in the context of that.

Any chance it's Vata who is delaying the signing of a new contract, rather than Celtic stalling over offering him one - I'd be very surprised indeed if Celtic didnt want to keep him, but not so surprised if the lad himself wants to keep his options open. Vata is very good, he looked the best of our highly touted U19 attacking players in the last tournament imo, much better than Zefi for example. He has already been handed first team opportunities at Celtic at the tender age of 17 (he turned 18 last month), so I dont think there are any real similarities with the Connell situation at Celtic. 

It should also be pointed out that Connell failed to really shine in an extended loan period at Queens Park. Maybe he just wasnt ready and that experience has enabled him to kick on this season at Barnsley. I like Connell, he has a very good left foot which is always coveted by clubs. It will be interesting to see how he gets on next season, hopefully in the Championship. There is room in our squad for a deep lying playmaker.

100% it is Vatas side stalling on the contract. Point is you can hardly blame them for being sceptical. 

Of course Celtic want to tie him down but once they have him tied down will they make the effort to develop him properly/give him gametime.

Anyways Connell at Celtic is done now he’s had a brilliant season at Barnsley and is back on track. Hopefully he goes up a division next season. 