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    Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 9:43pm
Well it would certainly set the precedent for an all ireland league which is well overdue. Potentially a magners celtic league Big smile
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Originally posted by Deco79 Deco79 wrote:

Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions  
Yeah spot on. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out with this proposed merger
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league. 


Red Star Belgrade vs Dinamo Zagreb on a regular basis again now that would be  something
Would make UCD v Cabo pale into insignificance
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.

You'd imagine they'd also get more TV Revenue for a combined league which would help.
 

From a European place perspective you would imagine it will be like the Swiss system in that it also has teams from Liechtenstein in the system but only Swiss clubs take the places from the league and the places for Liechtenstein are separate and go to the highest placed Liechtenstein league.


Liechtenstein has one European place and that goes to the winners of the Liechtenstein Cup, which is nearly always Vaduz.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.

You'd imagine they'd also get more TV Revenue for a combined league which would help.
 

From a European place perspective you would imagine it will be like the Swiss system in that it also has teams from Liechtenstein in the system but only Swiss clubs take the places from the league and the places for Liechtenstein are separate and go to the highest placed Liechtenstein league.




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Originally posted by Deco79 Deco79 wrote:

Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions  
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Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions  
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.

Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico.
It's very different in North America though.

In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.

On a more local note, it would lead to more take of an All-Ireland league regardless of anyone wanting it or not.


The biggest difference tbh is the stature of the clubs. There's a good balance of European level and poor clubs in the Dutch/Belgian clubs for the merger to be competitive.

Meanwhile over in the CONACAF region, a non-Mexican club has never won their CONACAF Champions League in 16 years, the likes of Tigres and Monterrey would just roll over the MLS clubs
Like the EPL, the MLS is all franchises. It's a different situation there though.

But it isn't just about Belgium and the Netherlands here. This is the first time that two UEFA members have wanted to join leagues with any real intent. If UEFA say no and the clubs themselves try and force it through, what happens?
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.

Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico.
It's very different in North America though.

In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.

On a more local note, it would lead to more take of an All-Ireland league regardless of anyone wanting it or not.


The biggest difference tbh is the stature of the clubs. There's a good balance of European level and poor clubs in the Dutch/Belgian clubs for the merger to be competitive.

Meanwhile over in the CONACAF region, a non-Mexican club has never won their CONACAF Champions League in 16 years, the likes of Tigres and Monterrey would just roll over the MLS clubs
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league. 


Red Star Belgrade vs Dinamo Zagreb on a regular basis again now that would be  something


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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.

Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico.
It's very different in North America though.

In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.

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That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league. 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.

I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.

Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico.
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Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.
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