Other European Leagues
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Topic: Other European Leagues
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Subject: Other European Leagues
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 10:36am
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexStone7" rel="nofollow - Bizarrest end to a season? Grasshoppers Zurich. Relegated for 1st time in 70 years. 4-0 down in Luzern, fans moved pitchside & threatened to storm it. Demanded players hand over shirts & socks. Wanted them to crawl back to changing room like dogs, in just pants. Game abandoned 'Kin hell ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: HuntysCousin
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2020 at 5:17pm
Decent performance from Ajax there, 13-0
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Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2020 at 10:47pm
HuntysCousin wrote:
Decent performance from Ajax there, 13-0 | Solid all right. And even better, it was 0-13. Away from home and all
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 7:24am
Steve Amsterdam wrote:
HuntysCousin wrote:
Decent performance from Ajax there, 13-0 | Solid all right. And even better, it was 0-13. Away from home and all |
Considering it was only 4-0 at HT it was some 2nd half.
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Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 8:00am
Bizarrely enough, after a red card for Christian Kum in the 52nd minute Ajax scored 4 goals in 5 minutes. VVV obviously struggled with 10
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 8:23am
So Ajax really climaxed after Kum went off
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 10:29am
I'm sure that lad was our school chaplain.
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Posted By: Steve Amsterdam
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 7:55pm
pre Madonna wrote:
I'm sure that lad was our school chaplain. |
Wasn't that Christian brothers Kum?
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:09pm
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025.
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:16pm
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.
Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico.
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:19pm
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.
You'd imagine they'd also get more TV Revenue for a combined league which would help.
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Posted By: nvidic
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:20pm
That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:26pm
coyne wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.
Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico. |
It's very different in North America though.
In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.
On a more local note, it would lead to more take of an All-Ireland league regardless of anyone wanting it or not.
------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:32pm
nvidic wrote:
That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league. |
Red Star Belgrade vs Dinamo Zagreb on a regular basis again now that would be something
------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:35pm
pre Madonna wrote:
coyne wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.
Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico. |
It's very different in North America though.
In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.
On a more local note, it would lead to more take of an All-Ireland league regardless of anyone wanting it or not.
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The biggest difference tbh is the stature of the clubs. There's a good balance of European level and poor clubs in the Dutch/Belgian clubs for the merger to be competitive.
Meanwhile over in the CONACAF region, a non-Mexican club has never won their CONACAF Champions League in 16 years, the likes of Tigres and Monterrey would just roll over the MLS clubs
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 3:44pm
coyne wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
coyne wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
I think we'll see a few league mergers because of the pandemic breaking clubs financially.
Mexican league are toying with the idea of merging with the MLS as every club in that league is broke to the point they've cancelled relegations in Mexico. |
It's very different in North America though.
In theory, leagues like a Benelux league, a Scandinavian league or a Balkan league would be interesting due to geography and history, both social and football, but if this were to go ahead it would lead to all sorts of questions regarding a European super league. As it stands, the big clubs and franchises have it how they want it and UEFA where they want them, but were this to be allowed then UEFA's incredibly weak hand will be even weaker.
On a more local note, it would lead to more take of an All-Ireland league regardless of anyone wanting it or not.
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The biggest difference tbh is the stature of the clubs. There's a good balance of European level and poor clubs in the Dutch/Belgian clubs for the merger to be competitive.
Meanwhile over in the CONACAF region, a non-Mexican club has never won their CONACAF Champions League in 16 years, the likes of Tigres and Monterrey would just roll over the MLS clubs |
Like the EPL, the MLS is all franchises. It's a different situation there though.
But it isn't just about Belgium and the Netherlands here. This is the first time that two UEFA members have wanted to join leagues with any real intent. If UEFA say no and the clubs themselves try and force it through, what happens?
------------- Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands.
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Posted By: Deco79
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 4:05pm
Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions
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Posted By: wexfordman1
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 4:09pm
Deco79 wrote:
Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions |
+1
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 5:05pm
lassassinblanc wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.
You'd imagine they'd also get more TV Revenue for a combined league which would help. |
From a European place perspective you would imagine it will be like the Swiss system in that it also has teams from Liechtenstein in the system but only Swiss clubs take the places from the league and the places for Liechtenstein are separate and go to the highest placed Liechtenstein league.
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 5:12pm
t_rAndy wrote:
lassassinblanc wrote:
pre Madonna wrote:
Belgian clubs have voted in favour of merging with the Eredivisie. Dutch clubs seemingly in favour too. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. I think the idea is to merge when current television deals end in both countries in 2025. |
Interesting alright , you'd like to think the big 3 in Netherlands would still be the front runners if it was to happen but the likes Anderlecht, Club Brugge and Genk would definitely compete, especially if they had a good few prospects coming through.
You'd imagine they'd also get more TV Revenue for a combined league which would help. |
From a European place perspective you would imagine it will be like the Swiss system in that it also has teams from Liechtenstein in the system but only Swiss clubs take the places from the league and the places for Liechtenstein are separate and go to the highest placed Liechtenstein league.
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Liechtenstein has one European place and that goes to the winners of the Liechtenstein Cup, which is nearly always Vaduz.
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 5:41pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
nvidic wrote:
That seems a good idea, Balkan league would surely be good as well, albeit to the detriment of the smaller clubs in each national league. |
Red Star Belgrade vs Dinamo Zagreb on a regular basis again now that would be something
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Would make UCD v Cabo pale into insignificance
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 8:56pm
Deco79 wrote:
Wouldn't like to see leagues merging but UEFA hasn't helped itself by allowing teams who finish 4th in England, Spain, Germany, Italy automatic entry in the group stages of the Champions League ahead of countries like Holland, Belgium where their Champions have to qualify for the group stages even though they are champions | Yeah spot on. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out with this proposed merger
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2021 at 9:43pm
Well it would certainly set the precedent for an all ireland league which is well overdue. Potentially a magners celtic league
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