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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Baku was literally a provincial Soviet backwater until about 30 years ago. 
True, but having been there myself, it's more like "Las Vegas on the Caspian" these days.

Which is why I can't understand why their shiny new airport has such limited capacity.


I do want to go. If we draw them, I'm definitely heading, even if they are ruled by a kleptocratic despot.


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Even in a quasi-dictatorial regime like Azerbaijan, I'd imagine the police are under instruction to be on their best behaviour for the Europa League final. It makes so much more sense that they'd be out to avoid incidents rather than cause one. That's what makes it so much more likely that they were trying to warn people to cover up. There doesn't seem to be any suggestion that they've tried to remove jerseys, just make them less visible when out and about in Baku.

I hope there are thousands of fans wearing Mkhtaryan jerseys in the ground tonight, all the same.
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In complaining in the Commons the other day about Mikytarian not being able to play etc, Labour Deputy Leader Tom Watson added this:

"It's also a scandal that Arsenal fans with Armenian names are being denied visas to Azerbaijan. It shows a deeply ugly side to the beautiful game and is completely unacceptable."

"UEFA’s inclusion and diversity policy says: "Everyone has the right to enjoy football, no matter who you are, where you are from or how you play.     

Countries that force players to choose between their sport and their safety, and discriminate against travelling fans, must not be allowed to host future events." 

And then there's this:

Arsenal players' plans to show support for Henrikh Mkhitaryan during the Europa League final have been blocked by strict UEFA rules.

The squad had spoken about how they could show support for their Armenian team-mate, who feels he is not able to travel to Azerbaijan for security reasons.

Wearing shirts with Mkhitaryan's name on the back for the warm-up was discussed. 

But UEFA insiders have confirmed any such moves are prohibited by strict rules.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7073129/UEFA-rules-block-Arsenal-plans-support-Henrikh-Mkhitaryan.html
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How can they ascertain whether a name is Armenian? Due to the fact it's comprised almost entirely of consonants?
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

How can they ascertain whether a name is Armenian? Due to the fact it's comprised almost entirely of consonants?
I guess in the same way you can usually tell if a surname is eg Irish, French, Russian, Greek or Swedish etc.

And I'd confidently predict that in the case of doubt or ambiguity, the policy is just to refuse the Visa.

Which is why this guy never played the Baku Palladium:  
Shahnour Vaghinag Aznavourian (or Շահնուր Վաղինակ Ազնավուրյան  in Armenian - pick the consonants out of that! LOL)


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Armenian names are pretty distinctive. It’s all pretty ridiculous, if true, of course. It wouldn’t be like the Mail to exaggerate, but Watson shouldn’t have any reason to here.

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If Chelsea win tonight, where does that CL place go to? Is some lower ranked European nation going to get an extra CL spot? 
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

If Chelsea win tonight, where does that CL place go to? Is some lower ranked European nation going to get an extra CL spot? 
I love the innocence of that!

Nothing happens, there will either be 79 or 80 teams in it next year, depending on tonight's result. If Chelsea win, Lyon are then put in the groups for next season, rather than be in a playoff.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Even in a quasi-dictatorial regime like Azerbaijan, I'd imagine the police are under instruction to be on their best behaviour for the Europa League final. It makes so much more sense that they'd be out to avoid incidents rather than cause one. That's what makes it so much more likely that they were trying to warn people to cover up. There doesn't seem to be any suggestion that they've tried to remove jerseys, just make them less visible when out and about in Baku.

I hope there are thousands of fans wearing Mkhtaryan jerseys in the ground tonight, all the same.
https://haqqin.az/multimedia/151222 trouble in Baku last night between the London Muppets.Angry
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

I f**king hate the Daily Mail.

Big banner headline that Arsenal fans in Baku were stopped by police for wearing Mkhitaryan shirts and the subheading that they were "halted for a time then allowed to move on".

It's f**king shocking that police most likely only doing their job and telling lads that their attire might cause them some trouble from degenerate reprobates is somehow repackaged in a headline as the police harassing the spectators when the reality is the exact opposite, and the police are more likely trying to help them avoid harassment.

Yeah, no sh*t sherlock. If I walked down the Falls Road with a shirt saying "f**k the ra", I'd expect if the PSNI saw me, they'd stop me and tell me to cover it up, for fear of me ending up in a shallow grave somewhere, and the same if I walked down the Shankill Road with a shirt saying "the queen likes it up the arse".

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Cech starts in goal. Advantage Chelsea 

What formation are Arsenal going for there?

Where’s Rudiger?
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This is being held in the Olympic Stadium.  When did Baku have the Olympics?
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

This is being held in the Olympic Stadium.  When did Baku have the Olympics?

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The main stadium in Baku, and I assume it is still there, was named after the 'Russian linesman' from '66 and all that.
I think he refereed the final in 1970. A bit of an oddity all the same.
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Doesn’t seem like a European final 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Doesn’t seem like a European final 
The stadium being populated mostly by locals instead of fans of the 2 teams doesn't exactly help.

Neither does the ridiculous distance between the pitch and the stands for that matter.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

This is being held in the Olympic Stadium.  When did Baku have the Olympics?

They bid for the 2020 Olympics 
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