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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The thing is though, there is a lot known about it. A key piece of information was the long standing efforts by the plant to perform the tests which led to the disaster. It was also well known that there was a shift change after the day had been spent preparing the test. It was known that the control rods which regulates the core temperature were deliberately removed to simulate heated conditions, and it is known that the regulating water evaporated inside a system which no longer had a failsafe mechanism.
Sure, but there has been some disagreements about the cause for a while and scientists aren’t entirely agreed.

If this unlikely theory is correct, the onus is on the Russians to prove it, and perhaps not via a tv show. It is most likely to be half-cocked propaganda, but it is hardly as inconceivable as being made out. 

spot on PM  i agree with you mate! 

we could also ask the Russians why does your sh*t evaporate when you sh*t into a microwave after 30 minutes 
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I’ve just been reading a bit about this story over lunch. In
The context of the Digital Sovereignty Bill going through the Russian Parliament and the apparent state involvement in the making of this ”retelling” I would be very concerned for press and internet freedom.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Personally, I think it is inconceivable , as the facts do tally up. Scientists do disagree, but the consensus on many scientific factors contributing to the disaster are not capable of debate. A prime example is the effect on the water within the reactor.

What does interests me is how on the back of a TV show, which people have been raving about the Russians now feel the need to tell their “side of the story”, in suggesting American involvement, at a time when the aim of Russian media has generally been viewed as entertaining populists and extremist politicians who are doing a fine job at destabilising trust and confidence in Government, which is seen as an aim.

Mentioned it earlier in the thread but check out the episode reviews on Twitter by a journalist called Slava Malamud (Grew up in the USSR when this happened and is now a journalist. His Grandad was one of the "liquidators" who went around Pripyat killing wild animals and pets that were left behind).

Says that in general, the HBO series was well received in Russia. But it's hardly surprising that Putin's regime would want to blame external factors on the explosion.
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Personally, I think it is inconceivable , as the facts do tally up. Scientists do disagree, but the consensus on many scientific factors contributing to the disaster are not capable of debate. A prime example is the effect on the water within the reactor.

What does interests me is how on the back of a TV show, which people have been raving about the Russians now feel the need to tell their “side of the story”, in suggesting American involvement, at a time when the aim of Russian media has generally been viewed as entertaining populists and extremist politicians who are doing a fine job at destabilising trust and confidence in Government, which is seen as an aim.

Mentioned it earlier in the thread but check out the episode reviews on Twitter by a journalist called Slava Malamud (Grew up in the USSR when this happened and is now a journalist. His Grandad was one of the "liquidators" who went around Pripyat killing wild animals and pets that were left behind).

Says that in general, the HBO series was well received in Russia. But it's hardly surprising that Putin's regime would want to blame external factors on the explosion.

Thanks, I’ll check it out!

I was reading earlier that Chernobyl has been something that the Russian state have been less than vigorous about acknowledging, and that it is because they know where responsibility lies.
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The Russian in charge of the Chernobyl station that night was Martin Oneillski
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Hard to take the TV series serious when Finchy form The Office appears
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Finally got around to watching this.  WowClap
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I hear if you use a 5G phone your hand and head will melt from radiation worse than being in the core of reactor 4 at Chernobyl.
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Finally got around to watching this.  WowClap

Its bloody good show! Scarily realistic too though.
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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The thing is though, there is a lot known about it. A key piece of information was the long standing efforts by the plant to perform the tests which led to the disaster. It was also well known that there was a shift change after the day had been spent preparing the test. It was known that the control rods which regulates the core temperature were deliberately removed to simulate heated conditions, and it is known that the regulating water evaporated inside a system which no longer had a failsafe mechanism.
Sure, but there has been some disagreements about the cause for a while and scientists aren’t entirely agreed.

If this unlikely theory is correct, the onus is on the Russians to prove it, and perhaps not via a tv show. It is most likely to be half-cocked propaganda, but it is hardly as inconceivable as being made out. 

spot on PM  i agree with you mate! 

we could also ask the Russians why does your sh*t evaporate when you sh*t into a microwave after 30 minutes 

Ya cannot beat some conspiracy and international propaganda! 
The fact remains that the way they undertook those tests was wrong and in addition the core/reactor design was flawed - this is a given. 
Stuff like a shift change as portrayed in the tv show do not work like that in the Nuke Industry and would not have caused that much impact.

As a result actually, the learnings by scientists (which were known) were shared with the wider nuclear industry and this caused the formation of WANO (of which Russian & Chernobyll NPP is still a Cat 3 member) so others could learn from it.

Either way the wider industry learned and its ironic that 30 years on, the Russians keep coming out about US involvement and portraying a different story even though they are members of  WANO and IAEA.


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Go into Google Earth and type in 'Chernobyl' and hit the return button and see where it takes youLOL
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Go into Google Earth and type in 'Chernobyl' and hit the return button and see where it takes youLOL
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Go into Google Earth and type in 'Chernobyl' and hit the return button and see where it takes youLOL
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Possible Nuclear/Oil/Gas/Firework explosion in Beirut. I’ve never seen anything like that in my life. Holy f**k.
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I just saw a video on twitter was a mushroom cloud explosion anyway so possibly
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I’m watching It currently live on CNN. Glass windows broke 3/4 km into the centre of Beirut.
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It looks like it was a fireworks warehouse. Absolutely bonkers.
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