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Excellent show.

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Best tv show in ages riveting.
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Russian TV making their own drama about the tragedy with a totally different slant claiming external factors were at play...
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Russian TV making their own drama about the tragedy with a totally different slant claiming external factors were at play...


Read about that alright, saying it was a CIA infiltrator who sabotaged the plant.

Russians LOL

Still claiming they done nothing wrong
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Is is that unlikely? I have come across that theory before and, as conspiracy theories go, it isn’t exactly up there with ‘the Jews done 9/11’.
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Very unlikely, to the point of impossible.

The long and short of it was extreme negligence.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Very unlikely, to the point of impossible.

The long and short of it was extreme negligence.
Without being smart, how on earth would you know? It is hardly inconceivable and we hardly have all the evidence to hand.

It appears to be fanciful, but I wouldn’t be so dismissive. A lot of things happened in the Cold War, on all sides, that were a complete mess and may never be properly explained due to the fall-out. ( sorry!)
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Very unlikely, to the point of impossible.

The long and short of it was extreme negligence.
Without being smart, how on earth would you know? It is hardly inconceivable and we hardly have all the evidence to hand.

It appears to be fanciful, but I wouldn’t be so dismissive. A lot of things happened in the Cold War, on all sides, that were a complete mess and may never be properly explained due to the fall-out. ( sorry!)


Why would the yanks cause a catastrophe like a nuclear explosion though that could have had devastating consequences for western Europe, its main ally though. 

Plus the cold war had ended on 25 December 1985.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Very unlikely, to the point of impossible.

The long and short of it was extreme negligence.
Without being smart, how on earth would you know? It is hardly inconceivable and we hardly have all the evidence to hand.

It appears to be fanciful, but I wouldn’t be so dismissive. A lot of things happened in the Cold War, on all sides, that were a complete mess and may never be properly explained due to the fall-out. ( sorry!)

I’m not going to appeal to my own intelligence (or lack thereof!), but I mentioned earlier in the thread how I got a personal lecture from somebody very experienced in the field about how it happened, and why it happened. It was a horrendous accident, facilitated by poor management, poor timing, and repeated failure over several years of similar testing. Also, a lot of the evidence is based on science, which includes things such as the boiling point of water.
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What devastating consequences were there outside Ukraine and Belarus?
It was also believed to have housed radar equipment.
I don’t think either side would have let the supposed end of the Cold War get in the way of their paranoia.

As I said, it is fanciful but we have no idea. This idea that it is totally inconceivable seems odd. 
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The thing is though, there is a lot known about it. A key piece of information was the long standing efforts by the plant to perform the tests which led to the disaster. It was also well known that there was a shift change after the day had been spent preparing the test. It was known that the control rods which regulates the core temperature were deliberately removed to simulate heated conditions, and it is known that the regulating water evaporated inside a system which no longer had a failsafe mechanism.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

What devastating consequences were there outside Ukraine and Belarus?
It was also believed to have housed radar equipment.
I don’t think either side would have let the supposed end of the Cold War get in the way of their paranoia.

As I said, it is fanciful but we have no idea. This idea that it is totally inconceivable seems odd. 


If the weather had blown towards Germany wouldn't there have been a lot more damage?  It only was spotted that there was an explosion outside of the USSR because Sweden registered abnormal radiation levels in their airspace.  Also I suppose the containment of the explosion to some degree prevented a wider catastrophe. 

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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

The thing is though, there is a lot known about it. A key piece of information was the long standing efforts by the plant to perform the tests which led to the disaster. It was also well known that there was a shift change after the day had been spent preparing the test. It was known that the control rods which regulates the core temperature were deliberately removed to simulate heated conditions, and it is known that the regulating water evaporated inside a system which no longer had a failsafe mechanism.
Sure, but there has been some disagreements about the cause for a while and scientists aren’t entirely agreed.

If this unlikely theory is correct, the onus is on the Russians to prove it, and perhaps not via a tv show. It is most likely to be half-cocked propaganda, but it is hardly as inconceivable as being made out. 
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Personally, I think it is inconceivable , as the facts do tally up. Scientists do disagree, but the consensus on many scientific factors contributing to the disaster are not capable of debate. A prime example is the effect on the water within the reactor.

What does interests me is how on the back of a TV show, which people have been raving about the Russians now feel the need to tell their “side of the story”, in suggesting American involvement, at a time when the aim of Russian media has generally been viewed as entertaining populists and extremist politicians who are doing a fine job at destabilising trust and confidence in Government, which is seen as an aim.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Personally, I think it is inconceivable , as the facts do tally up. Scientists do disagree, but the consensus on many scientific factors contributing to the disaster are not capable of debate. A prime example is the effect on the water within the reactor.

What does interests me is how on the back of a TV show, which people have been raving about the Russians now feel the need to tell their “side of the story”, in suggesting American involvement, at a time when the aim of Russian media has generally been viewed as entertaining populists and extremist politicians who are doing a fine job at destabilising trust and confidence in Government, which is seen as an aim.


I saw a clip recently of Putin playing some exhibition ice hockey game and he was playing against pro ice hockey players.  The players let him score about 5 goals in the game and were afraid to tackle him or stop his shots lest they fall off a high rise building in the near future.  Putin was then given a post match hero's reception by the crowd.

Its like something from Goebbels times.  The world is regressing into a dangerous place.  I've no doubts another major war is on the horizon somewhere in the world.
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The debate around the Skripal affair last year was a good insight into the operations.
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