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Thanks, I’ll check it out! I was reading earlier that Chernobyl has been something that the Russian state have been less than vigorous about acknowledging, and that it is because they know where responsibility lies.
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Mentioned it earlier in the thread but check out the episode reviews on Twitter by a journalist called Slava Malamud (Grew up in the USSR when this happened and is now a journalist. His Grandad was one of the "liquidators" who went around Pripyat killing wild animals and pets that were left behind). Says that in general, the HBO series was well received in Russia. But it's hardly surprising that Putin's regime would want to blame external factors on the explosion.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Het-field
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I’ve just been reading a bit about this story over lunch. In
The context of the Digital Sovereignty Bill going through the Russian Parliament and the apparent state involvement in the making of this ”retelling” I would be very concerned for press and internet freedom.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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You had it set to defrost.
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Liam Brady Fucknut Of The Year Joined: 24 Aug 2018 Status: Offline Points: 1520 |
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spot on PM i agree with you mate! we could also ask the Russians why does your sh*t evaporate when you sh*t into a microwave after 30 minutes
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 10754 |
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The debate around the Skripal affair last year was a good insight into the operations.
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39893 |
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I saw a clip recently of Putin playing some exhibition ice hockey game and he was playing against pro ice hockey players. The players let him score about 5 goals in the game and were afraid to tackle him or stop his shots lest they fall off a high rise building in the near future. Putin was then given a post match hero's reception by the crowd. Its like something from Goebbels times. The world is regressing into a dangerous place. I've no doubts another major war is on the horizon somewhere in the world.
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Het-field
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Personally, I think it is inconceivable , as the facts do tally up. Scientists do disagree, but the consensus on many scientific factors contributing to the disaster are not capable of debate. A prime example is the effect on the water within the reactor.
What does interests me is how on the back of a TV show, which people have been raving about the Russians now feel the need to tell their “side of the story”, in suggesting American involvement, at a time when the aim of Russian media has generally been viewed as entertaining populists and extremist politicians who are doing a fine job at destabilising trust and confidence in Government, which is seen as an aim.
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Sure, but there has been some disagreements about the cause for a while and scientists aren’t entirely agreed. If this unlikely theory is correct, the onus is on the Russians to prove it, and perhaps not via a tv show. It is most likely to be half-cocked propaganda, but it is hardly as inconceivable as being made out.
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39893 |
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If the weather had blown towards Germany wouldn't there have been a lot more damage? It only was spotted that there was an explosion outside of the USSR because Sweden registered abnormal radiation levels in their airspace. Also I suppose the containment of the explosion to some degree prevented a wider catastrophe. |
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The thing is though, there is a lot known about it. A key piece of information was the long standing efforts by the plant to perform the tests which led to the disaster. It was also well known that there was a shift change after the day had been spent preparing the test. It was known that the control rods which regulates the core temperature were deliberately removed to simulate heated conditions, and it is known that the regulating water evaporated inside a system which no longer had a failsafe mechanism.
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What devastating consequences were there outside Ukraine and Belarus?
It was also believed to have housed radar equipment. I don’t think either side would have let the supposed end of the Cold War get in the way of their paranoia. As I said, it is fanciful but we have no idea. This idea that it is totally inconceivable seems odd.
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Het-field
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I’m not going to appeal to my own intelligence (or lack thereof!), but I mentioned earlier in the thread how I got a personal lecture from somebody very experienced in the field about how it happened, and why it happened. It was a horrendous accident, facilitated by poor management, poor timing, and repeated failure over several years of similar testing. Also, a lot of the evidence is based on science, which includes things such as the boiling point of water.
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Why would the yanks cause a catastrophe like a nuclear explosion though that could have had devastating consequences for western Europe, its main ally though. Plus the cold war had ended on 25 December 1985.
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Without being smart, how on earth would you know? It is hardly inconceivable and we hardly have all the evidence to hand. It appears to be fanciful, but I wouldn’t be so dismissive. A lot of things happened in the Cold War, on all sides, that were a complete mess and may never be properly explained due to the fall-out. ( sorry!)
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Very unlikely, to the point of impossible.
The long and short of it was extreme negligence.
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Is is that unlikely? I have come across that theory before and, as conspiracy theories go, it isn’t exactly up there with ‘the Jews done 9/11’.
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Read about that alright, saying it was a CIA infiltrator who sabotaged the plant. Russians Still claiming they done nothing wrong
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