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OnTheOneRoad
Ray Houghton Joined: 06 Nov 2014 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4190 |
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Both teams are significantly better than us. Would think it would take something special for us to get something out of the Swiss away game, home games probably two draws.
What does work in our favour is our consistency, we have to be one of the most consistent non-elite teams in Europe at staying in or around the same level, barring the result in the second leg against Denmark two years ago. It's why we've meandered through groups beating the lower teams, drawing against the bigger teams and 'hoping results elsewhere go our way' which they almost always do, because one team either plays out of their skin (Armenia suddenly becoming the best team in the world back in 2011) or another team sh*ts the bed entirely (Scotland, Austria, Wales the list goes on). If we stay at the level we have done for years, we have a chance of one of those teams having an off day, such as Denmark in the first 84 minutes against the Swiss, or the Swiss in the last 6 minutes of the same game. You don't actually have to be that good to succeed in international football. Organisation and discipline will take you very far. We lost that in the end under MON - or probably more accurately, our neglect of it eventually showed under MON. We will be in with a shout in the last game at home to Denmark. It'll probably be needing a win. But beating Georgia away (provided we do it) will put us almost in that position already. Denmark failing to beat us at home is a big opportunity lost for them, and them and the Swiss still have to play each other again. Having said all that, i still think the likeliest scenario is we go into Denmark at home needing a win, which we ultimately fail to get.
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LO SCIENZIATO
Liam Brady Fucknut Of The Year Joined: 24 Aug 2018 Status: Offline Points: 1520 |
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I will pay for a back sack and crack for Baggio if we beat the Swiss or Danes at home
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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If we beat the Swiss at home I will vote Tory.
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RogerMilla
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if we beat swiss at home then we qualify imo
if we draw then we are already in trouble but not out. most likely we will draw |
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darmack
Ray Houghton Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4694 |
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Only 22 days till our next game but 95 days until the end of the campaign. A long way of conspiracys and sh*te talk to go yet.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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That would be Denmark who have been consistently better than us in all those games that we have doggedly hung on in most of them? Denmark who got to the last 16 in the World Cup and won our NL group? Ajax have struggled against Heracles in recent games, Celtic against Motherwell etc. Denmark’s underperformance against us and the inability to finish us off, bar the game where they clicked and. We collapsed, says more about them than us. As I said before, I feel their manager should have at least had an uncomfortable meeting after our last match, but could have had no complaints if he was sacked. In the same way that MON really started feeling the criticism after our draw in Georgia.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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We are currently on 10 points. That would put us on 15 points... Denmark are on 5 points right now. If they win both v Gib and win v Georgia, that leaves them on 14, plus one v us, so 15, assuming they lose to the Swiss. Switzerland are on 4 points right now. If they win both v Gib, win v Georgia, and get 4 v us, that leaves them on 17 points, not counting the result away to Denmark. In that case, we'd need Switzerland to win in Denmark and we'd either need to draw 0-0 with the Danes or draw 1-1 and beat them on goal difference (not likely). Those results are very unlikely to see us through: without a win v Georgia away and at least three points v the Swiss, we are almost certainly going to have to beat Denmark. We probably need 16 points heading into that game for a draw to be enough; otherwise, the chances of qualifying with a draw v the Danes are basically nil. If we have 16 points heading into that game, though, we only need the Danes to drop points once between now and then for a draw to be enough for us. However, they are quite likely going to have at least 14 before coming here, if not more. They are effectively on 11 already, before they come to Dublin, with the chance of extra points v Switzerland at home and Georgia away. The chances of us being above them before they come to Dublin are slim.
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deise316
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Draw V Swiss at home, Win to Georgia away, Loss V Swiss away, Draw V Denmark home. Where would that leave us ?
Would that leave us depending on the remaining Den V Swiss game, ie presuming they won all their other games V Gib & Georgia, we would be looking for a winner in that Den V Swiss game to finish 2nd ? Or lose out on same points but H2H or GD in 3rd should that be a draw ? |
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Pauldaly1984
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Lads are gas. Denmark have proven bar the freak 5-1 game that they are about our level . Realistically they are better but not by much. Take an injury or suspension to Erickson and the playing field is level. At home I’d fancy us.
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Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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Well you clearly aren't paying much attention to the evidence then, are you? We've played Georgia countless times over the last decade, and although it's rarely comfortable, in the majority of cases we win. Therefore, it's quite likely we'll win again. Similarly with the Danes, we've drawn with them 4 of the last 5 times we've played. The only occasion we've been beaten was when our manager absolutely lost the plot and threw away our gameplan. I think we can all agree Mick is unlikely to lose the plot in the same way, and thus the completely logical conclusion is that we'll draw again. Finally onto the Swiss. The Swiss are a good side, but it's extremely rare any side ever takes 6 points off us, and god knows far better than this Swiss side have tried and failed. There is nothing in Switzerland's form to suggest they are capable of easily dismantling a decent, well organised side like ourselves. Similarly, there's nothing in our form that suggests we're going to be swept aside by a side of Switzerland's calibre. They are, at the end of the day, basically just a better version of us; physical, solid, and well organised, but severely lacking in cutting edge. It's actually a game that you could quite easily see becoming a bit of a stalemate, with neither side really able to break the other down. Like who is it in the Swiss line up that you expect to just cut us apart? Shaqiri? Maybe, but he's incredibly inconsistent. I'd be surprised if he did it in one match, and I'd be absolutely astounded if he did it in two against us. All in all, your statement that we're absolutely doomed and always have been is nothing short of nonsensical. It's simply not grounded in the reality of what we have seen before.
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Another 22 days of this stuff
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AonSceal19
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Switzerland effectively have 13 points. They have 4 points already and they will almost certainly beat Gibraltar home and away and Georgia at home. Denmark effectively have 11 points. They have 5 points already and they will almost certainly beat Gibraltar home and away. Considering the above the key games remaining in the group excluding Ireland are Georgia Vs Denmark and Denmark Vs Switzerland. Hopefully Georgia can frustrate the Danes but if we can pull off a victory against the Swiss than that would leave them in a precious position since they have to play Denmark away. I actually think we have a better chance of sneaking a victory against the Swiss than the Danes. The Danes and us know each other too well. It goes without saying that Georgia away is a must win and we'll probably have to muster 4 points from the 3 games against Switzerland and Denmark. It's difficult but not impossible.
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We will qualify no problem, the danish game at home will just be a send off for us
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Hold on there love, I just have to finish this jibe at Moleman before we start.
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Hans Moleman
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Yawn. You taking a break from shredding files in FAI HQ, posting more garbage on here. What's the current morale of the FAI staff like?
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