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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


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If we qualify from Group D (as opposed to via the playoffs) we have a 50% chance of the Spain game being in Dublin.  

Note I am assuming the chances of Spain not qualifying directly at 0% above. 
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


110% HB

plus a cracking trip to Bilbao if we qualify Clap

If we qualify from Group D (as opposed to via the playoffs) we have a 50% chance of the Spain game being in Dublin.  

Note I am assuming the chances of Spain not qualifying directly at 0% above. 

thought we will play 2 games in Dublin and 1 game in Bilbao Gary. thought that was pretty much guaranteed 
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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


110% HB

plus a cracking trip to Bilbao if we qualify Clap

If we qualify from Group D (as opposed to via the playoffs) we have a 50% chance of the Spain game being in Dublin.  

Note I am assuming the chances of Spain not qualifying directly at 0% above. 

thought we will play 2 games in Dublin and 1 game in Bilbao Gary. thought that was pretty much guaranteed 

If both qualify automatically from their qualifying  groups there's a draw to see who gets home advantage in the match between the two teams


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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


110% HB

plus a cracking trip to Bilbao if we qualify Clap

If we qualify from Group D (as opposed to via the playoffs) we have a 50% chance of the Spain game being in Dublin.  

Note I am assuming the chances of Spain not qualifying directly at 0% above. 

thought we will play 2 games in Dublin and 1 game in Bilbao Gary. thought that was pretty much guaranteed 
 
Our group, all matches will be played in Bilbao or Dublin. So 2 matches per match day. The match day where we would have to play Spain, one of us would obviously need to travel.
I think if Spain and Ireland both qualify, they would do a draw to say which team gets the 3rd game at home. For example:
 

Spain

Czech Republic

Sweden

Republic of Ireland

 

Match Day 1

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Czech

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Sweden

 

Match Day 2

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Czech

 

Match Day 3

Bilbao:

Czech vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Spain

 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


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Clearly didn't get my point. 

I think you go out to win the group but let's be realistic as well. 

Maybe aim was the wrong word but people are expecting us to come 3rd. That's why we are 3rd seeds. 

2nd is bonus territory.


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Wait, so if two hosts sharing a group qualify but one comes through the playoffs, they automatically have to play the other host away? It's only if they both qualify automatically that there's a draw?

That sucks a bit but I see the rationale behind it.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Wait, so if two hosts sharing a group qualify but one comes through the playoffs, they automatically have to play the other host away? It's only if they both qualify automatically that there's a draw?

That sucks a bit but I see the rationale behind it.

Didn't think it mattered how you qualified. On uefa it doesn't mention anything about how you qualified:

Every qualified host would be guaranteed two home games in the group phase, but there would be no such guarantee for the knockout stage. Host nations that qualify will be automatically placed in the following groups. If both paired nations qualify, a draw will be held to determine which is at home in their direct encounter.
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"19.03 The first-named team is considered as the home team for administrative purposes. Host association teams are entitled to play a minimum of two group matches at home. If both hosts within one group qualify directly, a draw will decide which team will play three matches at home"


Seems *directly* means other than through the playoffs. The draw for the finals actually takes place before the playoffs.
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Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 

would that have been 2 months after Portugal winning the Euros? Sounds like an awful time to have played them so
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 

would that have been 2 months after Portugal winning the Euros? Sounds like an awful time to have played them so

Since 2004 the Swiz have qualified for 4 consecutive world cups and 3/4 European championships. They are very consistent in qualifying and go about it quietly. If anything I would say they are underrated. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 

would that have been 2 months after Portugal winning the Euros? Sounds like an awful time to have played them so

Since 2004 the Swiz have qualified for 4 consecutive world cups and 3/4 European championships. They are very consistent in qualifying and go about it quietly. If anything I would say they are underrated. 

I’d they played Belgium another 5 times I’d doubt they’d win by more than a couple of goals and would loose more than they’d win.

If they played TE another 5 times they’d probably go unbeaten winning most (without conceding:) )

They are a much better team than us at the minute but are not world beaters. We don’t play them for almost a year and we have lots of room to improve. Not sure then have.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


110% HB

plus a cracking trip to Bilbao if we qualify Clap

If we qualify from Group D (as opposed to via the playoffs) we have a 50% chance of the Spain game being in Dublin.  

Note I am assuming the chances of Spain not qualifying directly at 0% above. 

thought we will play 2 games in Dublin and 1 game in Bilbao Gary. thought that was pretty much guaranteed 
 
Our group, all matches will be played in Bilbao or Dublin. So 2 matches per match day. The match day where we would have to play Spain, one of us would obviously need to travel.
I think if Spain and Ireland both qualify, they would do a draw to say which team gets the 3rd game at home. For example:
 

Spain

Czech Republic

Sweden

Republic of Ireland

 

Match Day 1

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Czech

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Sweden

 

Match Day 2

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Czech

 

Match Day 3

Bilbao:

Czech vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Spain

 


A possibility of three of our group matches being played in Dublin? Dead
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Has it already been decided that if we both qualify, we get Spain?
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Has it already been decided that if we both qualify, we get Spain?
Yes. We're in Group E with Spain
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Our group, all matches will be played in Bilbao or Dublin. So 2 matches per match day. The match day where we would have to play Spain, one of us would obviously need to travel.
I think if Spain and Ireland both qualify, they would do a draw to say which team gets the 3rd game at home. For example:
 

Spain

Czech Republic

Sweden

Republic of Ireland

 

Match Day 1

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Czech

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Sweden

 

Match Day 2

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Czech

 

Match Day 3

Bilbao:

Czech vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Spain

 
No Spain and Ireland both get 2 at home and 1 away, the only draw that would be needed would be to see if we play Spain in Dublin or Bilbao. If we were to play them in Dublin, we'd have Sweden/Czech in Bilbao (in your example).

No chance we get all 3 at home.
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We'll get beaten by Spain regardless so I'd prefer to play them in Bilbao. Also Bilbao is hardly a hardcore Spanish supporting city.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

We'll get beaten by Spain regardless so I'd prefer to play them in Bilbao. Also Bilbao is hardly a hardcore Spanish supporting city.
Yeah defo...I heard somewhere that this would be the last game but i'm unsure. If so they might have already qualified which would be good or needing a win in the final game against them with them needing something also would be a disaster
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Our group, all matches will be played in Bilbao or Dublin. So 2 matches per match day. The match day where we would have to play Spain, one of us would obviously need to travel.
I think if Spain and Ireland both qualify, they would do a draw to say which team gets the 3rd game at home. For example:
 

Spain

Czech Republic

Sweden

Republic of Ireland

 

Match Day 1

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Czech

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Sweden

 

Match Day 2

Bilbao:

Spain vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Czech

 

Match Day 3

Bilbao:

Czech vs. Sweden

 

Dublin:

Republic of Ireland vs. Spain

 
No Spain and Ireland both get 2 at home and 1 away, the only draw that would be needed would be to see if we play Spain in Dublin or Bilbao. If we were to play them in Dublin, we'd have Sweden/Czech in Bilbao (in your example).

No chance we get all 3 at home.
 

Ah I see. I thought the guaranteed thing and mention of a draw for the direct match between the 2 meant one team could get 3. But now I get you and it's more fair that way. 
Also think it would be good not to play all games in dublin. Probably harder to get tickets than Bilbao!
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