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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Didn't know Brian Kerr posted on here LOL

As coaches, I think Kerr and Kenny probably merit similar levels of respect.
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Kerr hasn't been a coach for more than ten years.
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Wonder how long it will take before our Euro qualifiers are re-branded as a building exercise for the WC qualifiers? What are the expectations? A third place finish, achieving our seeding?
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An insightful and considered response as expected. I think we will finish 3rd in our group, based on what we've seen so far.

If you're looking for an insightful and considered response, maybe don't post an immature post like that, with the sole purpose of provoking others. Let's not pretend that's not what it was.
The problem with assuming the motives of a poster is that debate is pointless, you either agree or disagree with the content. Play the ball, not the man, and maybe leave emotion out of it.
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I don't understand your post, maybe someone could explain it to me? In a previous campaign, and about half-way through that disaster, SK attempted to change the narrative to state that he was really using that campaign to prepare for the next one. That was a dishonest thing to do. So there is some form here. Hope that doesn't happen again. And I still think we will finish 3rd. Which is not really a disaster. Not sure it would be sufficient to get him a further contract extension though. 
It’s quite simple, you’re first post in this exchange is pathetic, and it’s whataboutery, you’re making a up a fictional future situation to give your opinions merit. 
Then you follow it up with an attempt at highbrow nonsense and accuse people of playing the man not the ball. 

If people are prepared to post nonsense on a forum, don’t feign surprise when someone actually calls you out on it.  
 

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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Didn't know Brian Kerr posted on here LOL

As coaches, I think Kerr and Kenny probably merit similar levels of respect.

Aren't you the lad who was gutted when we beat Luxembourg?
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Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Didn't know Brian Kerr posted on here LOL

As coaches, I think Kerr and Kenny probably merit similar levels of respect.

Aren't you the lad who was gutted when we beat Luxembourg?
I think you are mixing me up with someone else? I was gutted when we lost to them, were you?
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Here we go again.....It's the Stephen Kenny thread
It would damage this forums' reputation
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Didn't know Brian Kerr posted on here LOL

As coaches, I think Kerr and Kenny probably merit similar levels of respect.

Aren't you the lad who was gutted when we beat Luxembourg?
I think you are mixing me up with someone else? I was gutted when we lost to them, were you?

Sorry you were just posting about people defending Kenny after they lose the second game to luxembourg before a ball was even kicked. 'Moving the goalposts' if you will.
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Wonder how long it will take before our Euro qualifiers are re-branded as a building exercise for the WC qualifiers? What are the expectations? A third place finish, achieving our seeding?
Sleepy I know you’re hurting but thats pathetic.
An insightful and considered response as expected. I think we will finish 3rd in our group, based on what we've seen so far.

If you're looking for an insightful and considered response, maybe don't post an immature post like that, with the sole purpose of provoking others. Let's not pretend that's not what it was.
The problem with assuming the motives of a poster is that debate is pointless, you either agree or disagree with the content. Play the ball, not the man, and maybe leave emotion out of it.
Goes from pathetic whataboutery to this in 3 posts LOLClap
I don't understand your post, maybe someone could explain it to me? In a previous campaign, and about half-way through that disaster, SK attempted to change the narrative to state that he was really using that campaign to prepare for the next one. That was a dishonest thing to do. So there is some form here. Hope that doesn't happen again. And I still think we will finish 3rd. Which is not really a disaster. Not sure it would be sufficient to get him a further contract extension though. 
It’s quite simple, you’re first post in this exchange is pathetic, and it’s whataboutery, you’re making a up a fictional future situation to give your opinions merit. 
Then you follow it up with an attempt at highbrow nonsense and accuse people of playing the man not the ball. 

If people are prepared to post nonsense on a forum, don’t feign surprise when someone actually calls you out on it.  
 

I didn't invent a fictional future. I said I hope he doesn't do what he did previously. I also said I think we will finish 3rd, and I also said that I don't think that would be enough to get him a contract extension. If you think that's high brow....
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disapointed the contract only goes to 2024 i would have given him longer as i dont think this is a project that can be completed in 2 years
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Seems like he did a tactical presentation for journalists at yesterday's press conference. Dan McDonnell saying he'll discuss it in his weekly newsletter today.
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According to Jonathan Hill there is an exit clause in Kenny's contract, most likely for after the Nations League. So more of a 1+1 contract then - a 1 year contract with the FAI having an option for a second at their discretion it seems.
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Any word on the new assistant/coach?

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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

According to Jonathan Hill there is an exit clause in Kenny's contract, most likely for after the Nations League. So more of a 1+1 contract then - a 1 year contract with the FAI having an option for a second at their discretion it seems.

Most if not all contracts will have an exit clause, they mentioned at the press conference yesterday it's a 2 year deal because they didn't want the same questions over the managers future after every international break.

Seems like a fairly straight forward 2 year deal with the FAI covered in the event that the Euro qualifying is going tits up.
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But now that they've confirmed there's an exit clause (or "exit-point" as Hill called it) that's exactly what will happen - if NL results are poor there will be calls to take advantage of this exit point. 
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Absolutely an exit clause. Anyone who considered such a scenario unreasonable feel free to consider yourself a dope/moron/fool. Hill confirmed a severance payout agreement is in place. In other words, a bad NL and SK's job is on the line. 
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Big deal being made about it. No different to any other manager. At this stage, a bad nations league would understandably see him gone. As O'Neill's fate was similarly sealed.

Only difference now is that we have an FAI in charge who's not a complete basket case and have the balls/sense to cover themselves financially with their contracts.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

But now that they've confirmed there's an exit clause (or "exit-point" as Hill called it) that's exactly what will happen - if NL results are poor there will be calls to take advantage of this exit point. 

But why are some people making such a big deal about it ?

It's pretty standard in contracts that all parties cover themselves with a get out clause.

I don't get why it's such a focal point
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

But now that they've confirmed there's an exit clause (or "exit-point" as Hill called it) that's exactly what will happen - if NL results are poor there will be calls to take advantage of this exit point. 

But why are some people making such a big deal about it ?

It's pretty standard in contracts that all parties cover themselves with a get out clause.

I don't get why it's such a focal point

We all know why it's a focal point.
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