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I also love the naysayers or the silent naysayers who are now hanging their acknowledgment of the teams progress on Anthony Barry in a way that Kenny didn’t do anything, it’s all Barry. Versus fair play to Kenny for hiring Barry and doesn’t it make a great team
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The "There's only one stephen kenny" while meaning well, is absolute dogsh*t. It reminds of the hype around Ricky Hatton around 06. Please give the man a proper song.

Even "Stephen Kenny's Green and White Army" would be way better
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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Two wins (against minnows) in 15 competitive games - how could Murph have got it so wrong?  

Ah Mr Brick how good of you to drop by. I hazard by your post that you still believe that Kenny isn't the man for the job? Would you like to elaborate on how he started out as manager to where we are now? 
As it says on the COP26-approved recyclable packaging, Artie - two wins against canon fodder after 15 competitive games. The post was in support of Murph who was bagged in McG's shambolic cheapie for the crime of expressing a different take on Pep Kenny. Enjoy the celebrations. 

Kenny deserved plenty of criticism in the beginning but I find it laughable that you are still fully entrenched in your view from day one to the final day. You will give no quarter of praise or see any positives whatsoever. 

I've no issue with any of the other posters, but you really are the only one who would just love it if we lost the last few games. 

Anyway enjoy sucking on your lemon Kenny is here for a while more yet Big smile 

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Kenny's salary for trying to implement a complete 180 for Irish football is too much, but Robbie Keane's 250k for doing absolutely nothing and being a complete and utter hanger on is nothing to moan about. Understood.

However, there are very few international managers who deserve to be on half a million a year tbh.


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

If there's any spare cash floating around once Robbie Keane is no longer being paid I'd like to see some of it being sent in Anthony Barry's direction to keep him involved - it does seem like his arrival was linked to the improvement in performances and results.

I'd rather it be spent on balls and bibs for schools and local clubs.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

I actually do think that's silly money. 

As is every salary in top level professional football! What was mc carthy on?

Mccarthy was on even sillier money 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

I actually do think that's silly money. 

As is every salary in top level professional football! What was mc carthy on?

Mccarthy was on even sillier money 

Therein lyth the problem. I think Mick was brought in on close to €1 million. MON/Keane were a €2.5 million package at one stage. Trap/ Tardelli were the same. I know DOB was subsidising the last 2 management teams ive mentioned, but still the FAI/ Delaney hyperinflated the market.

Just as a comparison, does anyone know roughly what Andy Farrel is getting to coach the egg chasers? I know it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, but still be interesting to see 
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Did i read Mick was on 1.2m x 2years, and 1m exit bonus. 3.4million for 10 games.. I remember thinking that 340k per game was banannas, now i could well have got that wrong, as even for Delaney that be a mess.

Please tell me im messing up those figures, because that's scary. 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

I actually do think that's silly money. 

As is every salary in top level professional football! What was mc carthy on?

Mccarthy was on even sillier money 

Therein lyth the problem. I think Mick was brought in on close to €1 million. MON/Keane were a €2.5 million package at one stage. Trap/ Tardelli were the same. I know DOB was subsidising the last 2 management teams ive mentioned, but still the FAI/ Delaney hyperinflated the market.

Just as a comparison, does anyone know roughly what Andy Farrel is getting to coach the egg chasers? I know it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, but still be interesting to see 

600k I heard.
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Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


Because now results have improved inline with performances some still need a reason to have a pop. 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.



Do you derive a salary based solely on performance?
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


Because now results have improved inline with performances some still need a reason to have a pop. 

To be fair, it doesn't sit easily with me because the association is absolutely strapped

Robbie taking a ball of money for nothing is a separate issue. Shameful to be fair 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


It's a gamble when you hire a manager in international football .
 
The FAI need someone who can take us forward fill Lansdowne and qualify for World Cups and Euro's .
 
The Mess JD left us will take so much time to put right .
 
As i said gamble , you hire the right man you get results we are go places  , but this comes with a price tag , sometimes you have to pay market value for the right manager .
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if we had Klopp and pep combined on 20 million each a year we wouldn’t have qualified for this World Cup. 

People need to get real.  We are picking players from league one in our first team.  

We have potential and a good spirit and a style of play that can bring us places but lads expecting World Cup qualification are deluded.  

Even with a playoff you have 2 games probably away from home to qualify.  
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


Because now results have improved inline with performances some still need a reason to have a pop. 

To be fair, it doesn't sit easily with me because the association is absolutely strapped

Robbie taking a ball of money for nothing is a separate issue. Shameful to be fair 
Dont get me wrong I’d rather we paid him less but we are where we are. Lads now suggesting he takes a 50% is purely because he can’t be attacked on performances & results. 
Same lads are silent on Robbie robbing a living, the agenda is clear as day. 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.



Do you derive a salary based solely on performance?

He would have a base salary and then you could add on competitive wins, qualification, rankings etc...

There should be an incentive. The better he does the $$ he earns.
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Why do people care so much how much he earns? I really don't understand this. 

I do think that all international managers should be on performance related pay.


Because now results have improved inline with performances some still need a reason to have a pop. 

To be fair, it doesn't sit easily with me because the association is absolutely strapped

Robbie taking a ball of money for nothing is a separate issue. Shameful to be fair 
Dont get me wrong I’d rather we paid him less but we are where we are. Lads now suggesting he takes a 50% is purely because he can’t be attacked on performances & results. 
Same lads are silent on Robbie robbing a living, the agenda is clear as day. 



Of course they are. 

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