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Tony Cousins
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Just looking for a bit of media attention for a few hours.
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El_nino
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I think you are doing McCarthy a bit of disservice by saying he just kept Ipswich in the Championship. He did so comfortably and had them finishing top half in 4 of his seasons and finishing in the playoffs once. They finished 12th, 9th, 6th, 7th and 15th during his time in charge. 15th being the lowest finish in his first season and if memory serves me right he took over mid way through that season when Ipswich hadn't won a game in a long time and were in a bad state (or in the gutter!). He had nothing to spend or very little to spend during his time in charge. Again i am certainly not rubbishing Kennys recent achievements with Dundalk far from it but IMO i think McCarthys at Ipswich over the 5 year period he was in charge are better at a higher level. i think the general consensus is that the championship is a remarkably competitive league.
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Hans Moleman
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I look forward to the response to this. The amount of times McCarthy made a balls of things while in charge of Ireland was massive, but his disciples will not have a bad word said about him. Kennys last few years in management are simply light years ahead of what McCarthy has achieved. I'm not for one second saying Kenny is the only option for the job, there are hundreds of great coaches out there if the FAI did their homework. I'd so far as to say that those calling for McCarthy over Kenny don't know anything about football. See, we can all do that.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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pre Madonna
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I'm not advocating Kenny by any means, I think the interview highlighted some of the doubts I have about him, but there is no comparison between what Kenny achieved and Pat Fenton.
Pat Fenlon won his league titles with the biggest budget in the league, when Kenny took over Dundalk they had just stayed in the league. He didn't just win a few titles, he took a provincial town club, admittedly one with a great LOI history, from hopping between the divisions to being the biggest club in the country within a few years, that is without mentioning Europe. The reason the league is a two horse race is because of Kenny.
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oldbilly
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I’m not sure I want SK to get it just yet, I’ve a feeling it’s all about to go tits up with I’ll duce dragged kicking and screaming out of office and our brilliantly talented playing staff will only accept a huuuuge presence like Magical Mick(according to that ballsack kilbane anyway).they couldn’t accept a manager who only managed Europa league ffs , champions league or nothing!!
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Cabra Hoop
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And Bradser.......
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 9559 |
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That is nonsense tbh. McCarthy kept a side in the Championship who have pretty much always been in the Championship; in other words he didn't really move them too far back or forwards. As I said, he did a very solid job, but he hardly worked miracles! Kenny on the other hand took a side who were languishing near the bottom of the LOI, and within a few years had them holding their own in the group stages of the Europa League. There simply is no comparison; Mick did well, but Kenny performed wonders.
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We're decent enough..
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Again, this isn't saying McCarthy should be manager, but Ipswich were a club in a mess. They have had, for the past few years, one of the smallest playing budgets in the division. They also sold their key players every year. As is being shown this year, McCarthy overachieved massively at Ipswich, it was far more than a solid job. Like a lot of these jobs he has done it only looks better a few years down the line.
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tony grealish
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Jocky Wilson
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He's won many leagues and cups. He's managed in the Europa league and Champions league. Mick McCarthy has never won a national league as a manager.
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eireland
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Yeah very weird behaviour from certain clubs regarding Kenny.
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kearney304
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Starting to worry about most on here. Have we all not just watched a dinosaur in charge with sh*te football. So why do we want it again? Mick has been at Ipswich struggling. Kenny has been reinventing Dundalk at home and in Europe and making people say who are Dundalk. Who the f**k are Ipswich. There is not 1 club chasing Yorkshire Mick. Yes he made a World Cup but how many tournaments did he f**k up I'm qualifying.
Kenny plays good football - Mick doesn't If we don't offer Mick the job, is there a massive queue to get him? Kenny has worked miracles with nearly all the teams he has managed. And big Sam. FFS - lay off the gear |
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Hans Moleman
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Just on this, I nearly p*ssed myself laughing when RTE were bigging McCarthy up about offers from abroad, I think I heard China and Qatar mentioned somewhere else I doubt there is a championship team who would go near McCarthy again. I'm absolutely certain there isn't an English club ever going to pay McCarthy 1.2m again in the rest of his career. Our decision to do so is another level of moronic. Sickening. I genuinely have to laugh as well at so many belittling Kennys achievements in the past few years in comparison to McCarthys achievements. This place is f*cking mental.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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t_rAndy
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Don't think Kenny is the messiah but he would have been different. Risky yes but all managers are a risk
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Conan
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This post just sums up everything wrong with the mindset of the typical Ireland football fan. We should have management from England because that will make English footballers want to play for us so that it will feel more like they are playing for England? And who cares if we have a sh*te league because England's will always be better than ours so lets just forget about it and ship all our players across as soon as they hit puberty because England is the key to all our footballing dreams and worthiness? People like yourself deserve us to have the crap football team we currently do and you have clearly never learnt anything about the contribution our pitiful dependence on our ex colonial masters has contributed to our present woefulness. You should be wearing a blazer in an FAI committee.
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9fingers
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This is literally one of the worst posts I’ve read on here ever WTF has GAA attendances got to do with anything? Mark Noble didn’t declare for us because he is English, and to say Mick would’ve got him on board is ridiculous. You clearly no f**k all about Stephen Kenny so please don’t bother with the history lesson. And then bring Bundee Ake, CJ Stander and incorrect LOI attendance figures into it All while supporting the FAI board!! Edited by 9fingers - 24 Nov 2018 at 9:01am |
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horsebox
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You should go back and watch one of the games from 2002 World Cup. It's a bit of a shock as I watched one last year. |
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
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I’d like the FAI to get Stephen involved in the Irish set up.
Obviously Mick will bring his own No2 but should the FAI get Kenny on board in some capacity so he can be groomed to be the next Ireland manager - a bit of forward planning.
After all the publicity I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kenny move to a bigger club than Dundalk in the near future. |
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