Adam Idah

Fruice wrote: this place is bananas at times. At the weekend lads were sending him to league 1 because he only got 5 minutes in the FA and equating player development to guitar playing. He is part of a club playing in one of the top 2 or 3 divisions in the world. He is starting to feature more and more and his performance last night showed he is improving

He's part of a club getting battered in one of the top leagues in the world.

Norwich, with 8 goals in 20 games, are well on track to be the lowest scoring team in PL history. What an amazing stat for a young striker to have on his CV. This of course after also being part of the 19/20 team, who are also one of the worst in PL history.

Somehow you think this is great for his development/confidence.

Bandwagon wrote: savo01 wrote: 6 goals in 50 games, 3 of which came in one game is simply not good enough if we are being brutally honest.  Connolly has 5 in 46 I believe and Parrott something similar.  Unless there's some sort of miracle these lads will end up as lower league or LOI players in the not too distant future.  No bad thing, but there's a reason strikers go for the most money and we may look at Ferguson to be our great new hope I feel.   You cannot look at the stats that black and white. He only started 8 of those 50 games! Of those 8 only he only completed 90 minutes 4 times. 17 of those 50 were injury time appearances where hes played between 1-5 minutes. His average game time since his debut is 20 minutes a game in all competitions and that has dramatically increased in recent weeks since Dean Smith has come in and given his a few starts and 20-30 minutes off the bench instead of 5 minutes or less. The lad has never got going because hes never been given a chance playing a run of games. Now that he has half a chance under a new manager hes in a team that are being dominated for 90 minutes rarely having a chance on goal because they dont have the ball and arent creating chances. They've lost their last 5 games hes featured in by 2-0, 3-0 and 5-0 scorelines where an experienced international like Pukki cant even manage a shot on target nevermind score 1 goal. What chance does Idah have? Its imperative to his development that he needs to play games week in and out at his age or else he is going to end up in the lower divisions or back in the LOI but its far too early to talk about that at just 20 years of age. Shane Long for example at the same age and same point in his career had just 8 goals having played twice as much minutes. Hes been a Premier League player for 15 years now. Lets give him a chance before calling him a dud.

Exactly. And to add to the breakdown of his actual minutes for Norwich, 4 of his 8 starts have come vs Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs & a very good West Ham. Not exactly giving the lad a fair chance.

Total minutes:

21/22 - 462' so far (amounts to about 5 games) 0 goals, 0 assists.

20/21 - 325' (about 3.5 games) 3 goals, 1 assist.

19/20 - 444' (about 5 games) 3 goals, 0 assists.

So his total senior minutes for Norwich amount to about 13.5 games, spread over 2 years. I don't know how anyone can look at that and say staying staying at Norwich is the best thing for him.

Since making his debut for Ireland in September 2020 (vs Bulgaria) [i.e. all of Stephen Kenny's tenure] he has played the most minutes (and has the most starts) of any striker or attacking midfielder, but hasn't contributed any goals:

Idah - 825 minutes over 13 caps (10 starts), 0 goals, 0 assists, barely a shot on target.
Robinson - 739 minutes over 12 caps (7 starts), 6 goals, 1 assist.
Horgan - 507 minutes over 11 caps (6 starts), 1 goal, 3 assists.
Knight - 479 minutes over 9 caps (4 starts), 1 goal, 3 assists.
Connolly - 441 minutes over 6 caps (6 starts), 0 goals, 0 assists.
Browne - 394 minutes over 8 caps (3 starts), 1 goal, 0 assists.
McGrath - 357 minutes over 6 caps (4 starts), 0 goals, 2 assists.
J.Collins - 292 minutes over 10 caps (3 starts), 1 goal, 0 assists.
Parrott - 290 minutes over 10 caps (4 starts), 2 goals, 0 assists.
Ogbene - 273 minutes over 5 caps (3 starts), 2 goals, 0 assists.
S.Long - 192 minutes over 6 caps (2 starts), 0 goals, 1 assist.
Curtis - 185 minutes over 4 caps (2 starts), 0 goals, 1 assist.

You'll notice Idah & Connolly, both getting sporadic minutes (albeit Connolly more & at a better club) hasn't translated to goals & wins for Ireland. While younger lads Parrott & Knight, out playing regularly at a lower level, contributed goals to help us win games.

The penny dropped for Connolly (a year older than Idah) & he's got a potentially great loan under Wilder. Fingers crossed he stays fit & comes back to us in March/June match fit & scoring goals.

You can add Obafemi in there, I think he has 7 goals, 4 assists in 49 apps at club level. Sporadic minutes off the bench in the Premier League didn't help him progress much & now he's dropped down to Swansea permanently.

When will the penny drop for Idah? If he's to realise his potential (IMO he could be a solid PL striker) he needs consistent starts, playing attacking football (i.e. he needs to get away from Norwich).

I wondered how long it would take for a comment like this to pop up. Christ. 

His potential was never a question, how difficult is it for you to understand that he wasn't playing? 

He needs to be playing regularly and only of late, as in the last few weeks, he has been.

Everyone wants idah to do well, he can't do that sitting sown