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Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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Interesting selection, and certainly a whole lot more valid than Jimmy Greaves, that's for sure! But I fear you're overlooking two things. First, for each of those players you cite, I guarantee there were another three or four contemporaries at their respective clubs who were equally highly rated as teenagers etc, but whom we've never heard of again (The "Base Rate Fallacy"?). Noiw tbf to Idah, he's already done very well to continue this far, but he's still got a hell of a way to go before he's the next Trossard, never mind the next Aubameyang! The other factor is that three of those players were have Brentford on their CV. Both Maupay (esp) and Toney were v.highly rated as youngsters, but somehow lost their way, before Brentford spotted them, bought them for a song, then developed them into top quality players. While as for Watkins, he was identified from early on as being a top prospect at Exeter, another club known for spotting youngsters. (Clinton Morrison, who played alongside him for a bit, predicted 3 seasons ago that he'd go on to play for England, btw). Anyhow, , Watkins eventually chose BFC from a number of suitors, since he trusted them to bring him on. For his first two seasons they played him as a wide player in a front three (the famous BMW of Benrahma, Maupay, Watkins), while he adapted to Championship football. But when they sold Maupay to the PL for a whopping profit, they knew Watkins was ready to move into the centre to take his place, before he too was sold for another huge profit after scoring 25 goals in 46 games. And just when their fans were wondering how they would replace both Watkins and Benrahma (currently also doing well in the PL with WHU), they swooped ahead of a number of other clubs (incl Celtic btw) to nab Ivan Toney, who has the potential to be the best of the lot (imo). So fair play to Idah, it's some going even to get as far as he has, but like climbing Everest, where the last 1,000 feet is harder than the previous 15,000, as with numerous other 20 y.o.'s, he still has a long way to go to reach the top.
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kevin100
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Keane was a freak really. Stapleton was scoring and playing regularly at a young age. English football is a completely different animal these days to what it was in the 70s/80s. Stapleton and Quinn were competing with British Isles players solely. Not to take away from what they did. Idahs club Norwich have the money to go and buy Sargeant for 10m from Werder Bremen and a Tzolis touted as the best attacking prospect Greece have had in years for 12m from PAOK. Idah breaks through in the 80s he wouldn't have that. This is what he's up against compared to players in the 80s the PL is like a Super League in itself. Toney/Maupay aren't superstars but are pretty decent and know where the net is. England/France aside they'd get into most international squads certainly. You'd take that.
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Iβd take a Toney in a heartbeat! Not scared to kick a centre back in the hole. Idah could learn plenty from him
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Well he made Pepe and Dias, 2 centre backs who aren't afraid to kick an opposing attacker in the hole, look distinctly ordinary at times in the Portugal game, which was his best game in an Irish shirt by a distance. That told me that he certainly has huge potential, what it didn't tell me was whether he had the potential to put the ball in the net, because tbh he didn't have a decent chance in that game. In fact over the three games, he had very few genuine chances and that is probably more down to the lack of creativity in the squad, rather than down to any obvious shortcomings in his own game. Lads say ah but he hasn't scored in the PL yet after 16 games, but again that's nonsense, has he started a PL game? How many minutes has he played in those 16 games? I dont know, but its likely well under 180 minutes across the lot i.e. less than 2 games in total. Somebody said earlier he has to score tonight which is also nonsense, first of all he has to start, then he has to get in to the right positions, then if his team mates create a big chance for him, yes he hopefully scores it, but that's not all down to him and he will most likely be playing for a Norwich reserve team which will be weaker than the Liverpool reserve team. Patience is required lads, he looked a good player vs Portugal in particular. His career won't be defined by what he does tonight and while it's frustrating that he's not getting more game time, he is very definitely in the first team picture at a Premier League club at 20 - that's an achievement in itself. Let's see if he can take that next step and establish himself as a starting PL striker, he's certainly heading the right direction and it's not like he is being frozen out of the first team picture at Norwich despite their expensive acquisitions.
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Earns a start tonight.
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Be fantastic if he got on the scoresheet. Nothing to fear in that Liverpool lineup.
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Yeah needs to grab his chance and show his manager hes up to it.
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encouraging to have 3 ROI lads out there regardless of competition
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Omobamidele and Idah are 2 of our best young players and the young players of Liverpool don't seem too troubled by them yet.
Bradley looks a prospect but sadly he's opted to the North. Can't say idah has done anything to suggest he should be playing first team yet.
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kevin100
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Tbf not one Norwich player is covering themselves in glory bar Omobamidele and Gilmour they don't look that composed on the ball either! Kelleher could have brought a picnic with him for the first 30 minutes!
Bradley looks very promising too. Would have been class to have him on board. Edited by kevin100 - 21 Sep 2021 at 8:16pm |
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Konate has brushed him off a couple of times as if Idah was a child. |
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should have done better there with that chance, straight at Kelleher
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He was brushed off it by Gomez too! Needs to learn to protect the football in those situations. Omobamidele the best of a bad lot here for Norwich is one positive. Despite all the crowing by English biased commentators about Gordon, Bradley is the clear standout of Liverpools 2 debutants. Looks far more ready not a dig at Gordon who's only 16 but Bradley is impressive.
Edited by kevin100 - 21 Sep 2021 at 8:23pm |
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Omobamidele much more likely to first team ball than Idah
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kevin100
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He has been very poor Idah nothing has happened for him. Tonight was a chance to put in a decent performance. In his defence you could say the same about 7 other Norwich players they have been disoriented. Omobamidele is one of a few that didn't leave himself down and Kelleher has been class again.
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Norwich are very poor. Im not sure who i would compare Idah to. Just had an overhead kick there. We wont know until hes playing week in week out possibly in League 1 or at best Championship. Cant see him making much progress in the PL. He wont get many minutes anyway.
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Thats it in a nutshell really. We do have a lot of young players around the squad at the minute, but truth be told none of them are much to get excited about or much better than other young players for mediocre nations. Omobamidele looked to have something about him to get excited about in the recent games, but its early days. Awfully long way to go
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Omobamidele very poor on two goals and several individual moments also. I dunno what strength your green tinted spectacles are but they're strong.
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