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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Ah come on Macca, no supporter, regardless of where there from would want to see an academy player flop in the first team LOL 

Terri is being realistic. While it's great to see Parrott see first team action after such a short time at the club, look how many strikers have seen minimal game time due to Kane (as Terri has outlined).

Personally not interested in any of Northern Ireland’s youth prospects who don’t want to play for Ireland.

I certainly wouldn’t be on OurWeeCountry making comments pretending that I hope they do well in the future.

Won’t be a popular opinion on here as you’re not really allowed to say anything negative or semi-negative about the North these days. 


Put it this way. I'm an Arsenal fan, and have never wanted any of the academy players that have been in and around the first team squad to fail to make it. Now as Terri is a Spurs fan, I highly doubt he'd want an academy player (Troy Parrott in this case) to suffer a similar fate to Vincent Janssen, for example, regardless of what part of the island he's from.

I'll state again, his post was actually quite realistic, in comparison to other posts we are bound to see if Parrott sees any more first team action over the next few weeks. All other strikers at that club are playing second fiddle to Kane, and Parrott will be no different.
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Originally posted by Sullivinho Sullivinho wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

I enjoy reading TAMB, Pie and Bovril and Welsh Apostle from time to time, but OWC requires you to register before it allows you read its content. I've tried on several occasions to create an account but every time my attempt to register is declined. My chosen email address/user name are entirely inoffensive but still, never any luck. I'm amazed anyone has ever been able to set up an account, ever. What's the secret? And why are they so paranoid?


Out of curiosity, I once registered using a spin on one of their noxious chants as a username. Try that. Imagine their surprise when they had to ban me after one post. LOL Which, I might add, carried no offence except to reveal which team I supported. Looking around the place, it was astonishing how taken they were by us and how much 'the beggars' figured into even the most mundane of their musings.

IIRC, there were additional off limits areas, even for registered users. Because if bulletproof vests or keeping warm have taught us anything, layers are everything. And I doubt paranoia is any exception.

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Originally posted by Sullivinho Sullivinho wrote:

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Out of curiosity, I once registered using a spin on one of their noxious chants as a username. Try that. Imagine their surprise when they had to ban me after one post. LOL Which, I might add, carried no offence except to reveal which team I supported. Looking around the place, it was astonishing how taken they were by us and how much 'the beggars' figured into even the most mundane of their musings.

IIRC, there were additional off limits areas, even for registered users. Because if bulletproof vests or keeping warm have taught us anything, layers are everything. And I doubt paranoia is any exception.
Maybe it was the 'Up the 'Ra' tagline they found to be discourteous?
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Maybe it was the 'Up the 'Ra' tagline they found to be discourteous?


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Just looking at Spurs first goal against Juve yesterday, Parrott burst his balls to make a great run around the outside of Lamela and he was unlucky not to score himself. He showed great awareness, timing and desire to offer an option. Fair play to him. Hopefully he continues to develop. 
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Would there be anyone against having him in the next squad? I don't see why he can't be accommodated in the squad ahead of Hogan, Curtis and Maguire.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Would there be anyone against having him in the next squad? I don't see why he can't be accommodated in the squad ahead of Hogan, Curtis and Maguire.
Wouldn't be against having him in the squad if one of the above mentioned pulled out with an injury, realistically he should earn his first cap v Bulgaria or New Zealand this year. 
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Genuine question and TBH I haven't seen enough of the lad but from feedback he seems a real player. 

If a lad is in or around a PL first team should he not automatically be included in the senior squads. 

*** Of course he can still play underage if needed but wouldn't this help the lad. 

Rooney was fast tracked.

It's not like we are blessed with fantastic players who play for top clubs. If you're in or around the first team for example in a top 4 PL side then you should 100% be involved with the senior side. 

Wales do this all the time and we rave about it when they school us but we are always so reluctant to throw lads in, why?

I never get the negativity towards it. Like so what if he doesn't have 25 PL goals yet. Most of our lads are around the scene of the Irish team and they never play club football, more there because they've been called up before. 

I don't get it at all. 


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If they are good enough then that is enough for me. It helps if players are playing week in and week out as it's easier to judge how ready they are but I would rather have the more talented player that has not broken into the team yet vs. average striker in L1, which is the level we are at when it's coming to the 5th to 6th striker, e.g. it would be more useful to have Parrott in the squad than Aiden O'Brien.
At least for the training squad so they can have a closer look at him and get him familiar with the surroundings. 




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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

If they are good enough then that is enough for me. It helps if players are playing week in and week out as it's easier to judge how ready they are but I would rather have the more talented player that has not broken into the team yet vs. average striker in L1, which is the level we are at when it's coming to the 5th to 6th striker, e.g. it would be more useful to have Parrott in the squad than Aiden O'Brien.
At least for the training squad so they can have a closer look at him and get him familiar with the surroundings. 




Fair point - unfortunately Parrott isnt from the cymru.
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To provide a little bit of perspective, whilst TP is clearly a terrific prospect, and Poch is far more open to giving prospects their chance than most other managers, nonetheless TP is still only one of several such prospects in the Spurs team.

For example, starting alongside him in that Spurs team in Singapore were Georgiou and Tanganaga, neither of whom has made a PL start for Spurs. And coming on on 46 mins (or later in the half) were Roles, Marsh, White and Bowden, with Whiteman, De Bie and Lyons-Foster unused subs. How many of you have heard of those players? (I hadn't, bar one or two).

And history tells us that only a tiny minority of such players go on to make a decent living in the game, never mind a fortune at a top club.

That said, TP does appear to have three things in his favour.
1. At 17 1/2 y.o., he's younger than most (all?) of those others;
2. Even despite his youth, he's still considered to be one of the hottest young talents at the club;
3. He's a striker.

And as regards 3., Spurs are having real difficulty signing/keeping strikers, since none wants to play 2nd fiddle to Kane if they're anyway decent. Therefore should he fulfil his potential, TP will be more likely to get promoted through the ranks at Spurs than a striker at another top club, or a player in a different position at WHL.

But he's still never going to shift HK whilst the latter is still at the club, which could be some time yet.

And as for getting to play alongside him, Son and/or Moura have got that sewn up for another bit yet.

TP will have to be patient.


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Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473
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Originally posted by eddiebro eddiebro wrote:

Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473
Dunne is absolutely spot-on (imo).

And as it happens, notwithstanding "pulling rank" on Parrott over the U-19's, poch is more receptive to players going off on international duty than most managers, since he sees the bigger picture.

(Tbf, he can afford to, since he knows he won't be sacked after losing 2 or 3 games!)
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

To provide a little bit of perspective, whilst TP is clearly a terrific prospect, and Poch is far more open to giving prospects their chance than most other managers, nonetheless TP is still only one of several such prospects in the Spurs team.

For example, starting alongside him in that Spurs team in Singapore were Georgiou and Tanganaga, neither of whom has made a PL start for Spurs. And coming on on 46 mins (or later in the half) were Roles, Marsh, White and Bowden, with Whiteman, De Bie and Lyons-Foster unused subs. How many of you have heard of those players? (I hadn't, bar one or two).

And history tells us that only a tiny minority of such players go on to make a decent living in the game, never mind a fortune at a top club.

That said, TP does appear to have three things in his favour.
1. At 17 1/2 y.o., he's younger than most (all?) of those others;
2. Even despite his youth, he's still considered to be one of the hottest young talents at the club;
3. He's a striker.

And as regards 3., Spurs are having real difficulty signing/keeping strikers, since none wants to play 2nd fiddle to Kane if they're anyway decent. Therefore should he fulfil his potential, TP will be more likely to get promoted through the ranks at Spurs than a striker at another top club, or a player in a different position at WHL.

But he's still never going to shift HK whilst the latter is still at the club, which could be some time yet.

And as for getting to play alongside him, Son and/or Moura have got that sewn up for another bit yet.

TP will have to be patient.


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Originally posted by eddiebro eddiebro wrote:

Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473

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Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Originally posted by eddiebro eddiebro wrote:

Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473

Dunne is enjoying retirement! Size of him LOL
 
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