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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

A few bumps and bruises along the way away aside, the title is done. It's over. Liverpool fans are in the majority who don't realise this and tbf it's understandable.

The big question for me is can they do the big double. I think they'll go very close. If you asked me to stick a bet on at value, I'd think they can get it done.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

A few bumps and bruises along the way away aside, the title is done. It's over. Liverpool fans are in the majority who don't realise this and tbf it's understandable.

The big question for me is can they do the big double. I think they'll go very close. If you asked me to stick a bet on at value, I'd think they can get it done.
 
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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

It would be nice to see Man city finish off the job with some early goals today.
 
De Bruyne to feature?

Good to see the league go down to the last day. Doesn't happen often enough.

Relegation and top 4 all sorted so no drama there. 

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It would be nice to see Man city finish off the job with some early goals today.
 
De Bruyne to feature?
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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Ah don't worry CM, Dyche does enough of it to make up for his loss Wink
 
 
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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Ah don't worry CM, Dyche does enough of it to make up for his loss Wink
 
 
Cracking manager Sean Dyche.
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Ah don't worry CM, Dyche does enough of it to make up for his loss Wink
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Me or Lee?

All you commie lads are nice until you suddenly crack and randomly have a go at the President or some Australians.

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


I can just imagine how Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam would fare as managers

Not good is my conservative guess



They both agreed that the game is still more about talented individuals than systems.
It's about both but if talented individuals are playing in a team with a poor system they will invariably lose to a less talented team with a better system

So things are clearly much more weighted in favour of systems being more important

This isn't something that's unique to association football - it's common to all field sports

From the bit I know about Sutton and Adam they strike me as your typical backward old school British ex-footballer/soon to be ex-footballer who are high on confidence in their opinions with sod all to back it up

There's a reason British coaches have been laughed at throughout Europe for the last 25 years with only the latter careers of Bobby Robson and Alex Ferguson bucking the trend in that time





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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Me or Lee?

All you commie lads are nice until you suddenly crack and randomly have a go at the President or some Australians.

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


I can just imagine how Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam would fare as managers

Not good is my conservative guess



They both agreed that the game is still more about talented individuals than systems.
It's about both but if talented individuals are playing in a team with a poor system they will invariably lose to a less talented team with a better system

So things are clearly much more weighted in favour of systems being more important

This isn't something that's unique to association football - it's common to all field sports

From the bit I know about Sutton and Adam they strike me as your typical backward old school British ex-footballer/soon to be ex-footballer who are high on confidence in their opinions with sod all to back it up

There's a reason British coaches have been laughed at throughout Europe for the last 25 years with only the latter careers of Bobby Robson and Alex Ferguson bucking the trend in that time
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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Me or Lee?

All you commie lads are nice until you suddenly crack and randomly have a go at the President or some Australians.

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


I can just imagine how Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam would fare as managers

Not good is my conservative guess



They both agreed that the game is still more about talented individuals than systems.
The only problem with killing an American president is that he is likely to be replaced by someone worse!

There is an interesting debate in Early's piece, even if I felt it wasn't put together well. Individual talent is still important, but there is no doubting that systems have become more important. There is far less space in football now, players are fitter and there are less mistakes as a result of fatigue.
I do think that there is a kernel of truth in the argument that a lot of players aren't as arsed anymore though . For example,I watched the highlights of Manchester City and Spurs the other week, the Champions League game, I didn't see any criticism for Alderweireld ducking out of the way of the first goal. That's normal now. 
It is a little bit of both, but that introduction from Early is torturous.
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Yeah but all they could say to support their viewpoint was Messi
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Me or Lee?

All you commie lads are nice until you suddenly crack and randomly have a go at the President or some Australians.

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


I can just imagine how Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam would fare as managers

Not good is my conservative guess



They both agreed that the game is still more about talented individuals than systems.
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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/ken-early-football-s-new-age-neutralises-philosophies-of-the-past-1.3874358

 
Good article
He kind of gets towards something interesting, but the introduction is awful. You would nearly get a headache from it. Thank f**k he didn't write 'Inverting the Pyramid'.LOL


They just spent 10 minutes discussing Ken's article on the monday night club, on 5 live. Mark Chapman was very impressed by it, Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam, less so.

I can just imagine how Chris Sutton and Charlie Adam would fare as managers

Not good is my conservative guess
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