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Poll Question: Will you vote to Repeal the 8th amendment?
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Agreed.

I wonder if the church wasn't involved if there'd be much opposition to this.

There are agents of the Church, who are often more fire and brimstone than the church themselves, and often have the least compassion and concern. You could take the Church out of the debate, and there would still be a lay community well capable of taking up the torch. There would also be the conservative movement who would default oppose repeal on an ideological basis. I also think that there will be the silent no voter, whose only act in this whole saga will be to vote no. Politicians will also vote based on their constituency, and that has given rise to TDs voting against even holding a referendum, let alone actually voting to repeal the amendment.
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That Ronan Mullen fella freaks me out. He's about as progressive as the more fundamentalist members of the Taliban. 
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:


I see the people who voted no above haven't been brave enough to post as to their reasoning why, pity really.
 
I can't vote on this but am 100% voting repeal the 8th.

That's the referendum debate summed up.
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Yes plus Repeal the 27th.  

(Option not available in the Poll above).
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Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Yes plus Repeal the 27th.  

(Option not available in the Poll above).

That will never happen.
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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



That Ronan Mullen fella freaks me out. He's about as progressive as the more fundamentalist members of the Taliban. 


One of the reasons I'm voting yes.
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Will this be available on the medical card?
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Yes plus Repeal the 27th.  

(Option not available in the Poll above).

That will never happen.

That's what the Absolutists want you to think.
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Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Yes plus Repeal the 27th.  

(Option not available in the Poll above).

That will never happen.


That's what the Absolutists want you to think.

Good.
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I dont think I will vote to repeal it. I would vote to reform it if that becomes an option.

Where there is a threat to someone's life or health abortion should be available.

It's very hard to.outline my reasons briefly without going into significant depth and I realise it is a very divisive and sensitive issue. However I will try.

The first reason is, human equality. We all believe in it.so it's about belief, do we believe that an unborn baby is a life, or human. My belief is, it is, therefore should have the same rights as another human.

Secondly,I believe a man should be part of the decision. To not include him in the decision leaves off responsibility for their actions and or look after that baby.

Social attitudes need to change as well, in terms of stigma and community support of single parents. We of course have improved in the last few decades but situations where a decision is made for instance based on bad timing in someone's life or for fear of what they will be thought of, I would suggest as been wrong.

There should be a responsibility on both the man and woman for their actions and what they engage in.

I'll reiterate though where there is a threat to life or health implications, it should be available. Hence I would vote to reform it.
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So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?
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15 votes for no on a football forum.

This will run close. 
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?
 
I've read what Ooohah said a few times now and I'm not sure how you feel that's what he's saying? Maybe I'm missing something
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Walls, I think he is referring to the line about "responsibility", perhaps two lines from the bottom of the post. But I too am
Struggling to see this interpretation. Especially as the poster has talked about "reform".

Granted, I rarely accept the reform argument in any referendum, as it's never on the table. Plus, what kind of reform would be sensible and make a noticeable difference apart from repeal.
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

I dont think I will vote to repeal it. I would vote to reform it if that becomes an option.

Where there is a threat to someone's life or health abortion should be available.

It's very hard to.outline my reasons briefly without going into significant depth and I realise it is a very divisive and sensitive issue. However I will try.

The first reason is, human equality. We all believe in it.so it's about belief, do we believe that an unborn baby is a life, or human. My belief is, it is, therefore should have the same rights as another human.

Secondly,I believe a man should be part of the decision. To not include him in the decision leaves off responsibility for their actions and or look after that baby.

Social attitudes need to change as well, in terms of stigma and community support of single parents. We of course have improved in the last few decades but situations where a decision is made for instance based on bad timing in someone's life or for fear of what they will be thought of, I would suggest as been wrong.

There should be a responsibility on both the man and woman for their actions and what they engage in.

I'll reiterate though where there is a threat to life or health implications, it should be available. Hence I would vote to reform it.

well said. 

for me it's the question of is an unborn baby is a life - even before 12 weeks. in my view it absolutely is and by terminating it you are taking a life away that's basic instinct is to survive. For me this is why i would probably vote no - if i could vote. 

strongly agree that reform is needed.
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?
 
I've read what Ooohah said a few times now and I'm not sure how you feel that's what he's saying? Maybe I'm missing something
 
"There should be a responsibility on both the man and woman for their actions and what they engage in."
 
This is where I got it from. I wasn't having a go just asking if that's what he felt as I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way.
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?

I probably wont spend the day arguing my viewpoint as I Know Ill steer off some points slightly and end up arguing on tangents from my original viewpoint.

I am highly aware aswell its a sensitive topic and dont want to be offending people.
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?

I probably wont spend the day arguing my viewpoint as I Know Ill steer off some points slightly and end up arguing on tangents from my original viewpoint.

I am highly aware aswell its a sensitive topic and dont want to be offending people.

Don't leg it from the thread OohAah. I personally don't agree with your viewpoint but I'm interested in hearing more from people like yourself who are putting forward your argument in a constructive manner. It's important to get both sides to air their views. 
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